so I've done this with Pink Floyd, and heres the thing about it, it matches up beautifully durring the heavy experimental, progressive parts of the album. but durring the more grounded, standard parts of the album, it is just balls to watch, zip, nothing. now Tool is a very dynamic progressive band. lots of key and time changes, lots of movements in long drawn out songs. basically it's no suprise that it would synch up better if it has more changes and movements than Floyd. here's an Idea. pull out Battles or some other Post-rock band like GY!BE and see how many coincental synchs you can get out of one of there album. I bet you'd get a change on every significant change in the movie or close enough to it, to call it a synch.

basically any music that has a lot of progressive elements, and lots of key, time changes, and lots of synth like elements is going to match up with any video quite well.

I don't buy this for a sec, but hell, I'd be fun to do, I might try it with some post rock bands, maybe a more recent movie though. it's time to put this movie to rest. anyother near psychedelic, or unintentionally psychedelic movie would be just fine.

DF-118, glad you enjoyed the NOTLZ preview. And I realize this is a NIN forum, but since you guys are talking about Tool and syncs, well...

Here's "Friday The 13th" sync'd with A Perfect Circle's "Thirteenth Step": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BctEfoOsx2c

I left a link to this thread on YouTube, too. Wonder if like in music the loop will cause feedback?

The DeVille

It works. And I completely believe that this is the solution to the puzzle. Maynard probably sees this as a joke - doing the same thing that Pink Floyd did just so people wouldn't think twice about it.

"Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind..."

No. I cant believe Tool would consciously do this after it was done with Pink Floyd already. Why would they compromise the integrity of a band so unique to try a cheesy ploy like this again?

That would be like Tool creating thier own individual symbol for each member.

But after seeing the lasers in the live show....

I watched a bit of it last night and havent had time to watch more, personally I think theres times where things seem a little in sync. But I think any of the bits you think are matching are most likely coincidental.
Id say the puzzle is still unsolved.

when have they ever done somthing or not done somthing because of another person... people thinking that they wouldnt pull a stunt like this probably made them actually do it

I am sick, and bored, so i gave this a try, I don't think it works. It lines up in spots, but it lines up with Russian Ark better. Russian Ark is a shorter film tht was shot in one take, one continuous shot.

This had nothing to do with the puzzle either, the puzzle is all about the placement of the band members, line them up with the curtains. It's like the hidden image puzzles, where your eyes have to align the images out of focus.

Those weren't cut lines, they were fold lines, hope no one destroyed their booklets.

Integrity? haha! Remember, Maynard's the guy selling targets that he shot at on this website for $100 a pop.

Anyways, unlike some of the the haters on here I've actually watched the sync a couple of times. And I believe that there are just too many similarities, not only in the rhythm and guitar work, but also in the lyrics and theme, to simply dismiss this. Especially without checking it out for yourselves. I'm still not 100% certain myself, it could be a coincidence, but right now I'm strongly leaning toward it being done on purpose. Also, if any band was going to do something like this, Tool would be that band.
I realize I'm new and this is my first post, but people should seriously check it out so they actually have some idea of what their talking about.
If you watch it and still think that it's BS, then fair enough.

Peace

Haters? Just opinions dude. Take a pill.

And there is no 's' at the end of the word ANYWAY

Alright I would like to give a very educated view on this whole perspective.

First off and foremost the band better known as Pink Floyd has allways denounced that the album Dark Side Of The Moon had anything to do with the Wizard of Oz.

Second the band was immensly and is immensly sick of people thinking that the movie has anything to do with Wizard of Oz..

Lastly studies have been done on this, people also swear that George Lucases film THX whatever whatever also sync up.. To prove a point someone took a total random movie and synced it with Dark Side of The Moon and a list longer then that of syncing up Wizard with Dark Side Of The Moon that souned even more plausible.. It is simply all about how good your brain is at finding patterens and consistencies within the unmatched caos. People have done it a billion million times..

I dont have to watch the movie and try it to know that it is simply you people finding the consistencies any way possible that match up with the movie. This is the same exact thing that went on when people thought you could sync three songs together off of the same album to make one song. Bullshit, did not happen again the same exact thing. \

Look at a cloud in the sky and find an image you swear is there and then ask your friend beside you to find the same image.. He wont find it unless you take a picture of that cloud and map it out for him.. Your brain works off of taking things it does not understand and trying to understand it by running through familiar patterns there is a scientific way to put this its on wikipeida.. I dont care to dig.. But really people wizard of oz, that would be really lame.. I am sure maynard is alot more clever then that.. He would naturally think of his own idea not someone elses.. It would be stupid to do something like that.. People would just shrug it off. It has already supposedly been done right.. Or so everyone would like to believe, but it hasnt..

pce and happiness in death

You know, your post would have been valid if you didn't make this retarded statement. You started out saying that you were going to take an "educated" look at the DSOTM/WofOz phenomenon but didn't even bother to actually watch it. How scientific of you! You, my friend, are a jackass.

If you had bothered to actually try it, you would have seen that it goes way beyond coincidence. Both the music and the lyrics match up so perfectly that its just fucking eerie. Only Roger Waters himself really knows the truth, but in any case you should check it out on a rainy Thursday night or some shit like that. It is definitely one of the strangest things I've ever seen.

Back on topic,
I would offer an opinion on the Tool thing but I haven't actually tried it myself and since I'm not a total jackass I realize that I am unqualified to offer an educated opinion. It certainly sounds like a load of shit though.

Hi guys,

The truth is, that the mystery is so deep, we may never know the answer unless maynard and the guys choose to let us in on it. And even if they did, given their propensity for practial joking, we still wouldn't know for sure.

But they sure created a buzz, and it surely makes them smile. They work hard and give us a LOT for our money - this is entertainment.

Hook'em horns in the air!

The DeVille

I tried this out, editing the sound outta the Wizard of Oz and replacing it (as per instructions) with 10'000 Days (from 1:44 into Vicarious). I actually wish I hadn't bothered, 'cause it didn't work. Do I need to be on drugs, or something?

I had a little time this afternoon -but not time enough for the whole movie, sadly - and was really impressed, once wings started. only got to lipan before I had to go, looking forward to finishing it sometime.


"who are you to point your finger?" come on... my girlfriend and I literally freaked out when that happened. nice find.

J

Pretty fucking cool if you ask me....

I can't believe this shit. Well, I CAN, but I can't believe so many of you are actually immediately falling for it and trying it. How old are all of you? 14? I'll just let Maynard himself end all the speculation, via an interview from the Onion A.V Club last year.....

Read the whole thing at

http://www.avclub.com/content/node/55757/1


AVC: Do you ever jump online to read fans' interpretations of your songs?

MJK: Oh, God, no.

AVC: It's amazing, the depth that people go into. The general idea seems to be that you're gradually revealing clues with each new album.

MJK: Isn't that great? They're playing it backwards, and they're like, "You've got to get a Slurpee, but only half-full, and when you're drinking the Slurpee, right at that last slurp, the rhythm of the slurp coincides with…" My God. Are you kidding me?

AVC: Some people think there are three tracks on 10,000 Days that supposedly form one hidden track that's the key to the whole album. It's as if people want to believe there's going to be some ultimate aesthetic payoff.

MJK: [Laughs.] We can barely decide whether we're going to do a baseball cap or a beanie. You know what I mean? Now, granted, if you subscribe to the whole spiritual, energetic level, when you get into that weird, meditative state… I'm trying to think of the word… Sufis? I don't remember—the whirling dervishes. When you get into that weird state, at some point, your body clicks out, and you have a weird out-of-body experience, and so you can tap into those things unconsciously. So if people are reading into those kind of things that basically had nothing to do with us, that are just us clicking in a moment and being true to that whirling-dervish process of emoting with each other, some of that stuff just might naturally, accidentally come out. But it's not in any way a product of our design.


I'm sure that won't stop you, though. That's just Maynard "tooling" around with us, and there IS some gigantic puzzle to figure out, just like how "10,000 Days" was a "decoy" album and that the tracks in "Lateralus" can be re-sequenced to figure out the meaning of life, and stuff.

Seriously though.....just wait until 1:44 in "Vicarious" and.....

Get a life, kids. I LOVE how you can't just start the album, you have to go to a CERTAIN POINT in the song for it to work. And I LOVE how, once again, "The Wizard of Oz" is the film that it all matches up to. What did you do, play every CD you owned until something worked? Couldn't you have picked another film, like say, "Citizen Kane"? Why choose the typical "Movie an epic album syncs up with" film? I'm sure I could play "Revolver" and make "I'm Only Sleeping" match up with Dorothy waking up in Oz if I wanted to. For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen!!!111!! Lennon and McCartney are GENIUSES!!

You can make ANY album match up with ANY movie if you try hard enough, and that's exactly what you are doing. Picking an exact, obscure point in a song so it will all match up perfectly. What happens if you don't start at 1:44? Oh, that's right, it DOESN'T work. Oh wait, it still does, but not the way you wanted it to.....oh wait, the way Tool wanted it to. It was semi-interesting in 1995 or so when some stoner discovered the vague "Dark Side of the Moon" coincidences, but now it's just incredibly sad and stupid.

Yeah, I'm sure Adam stopped the recording session and said, "Wait, Danny! Don't play that drum fill NOW, or else my guitar riff won't perfectly coincide with the munchkin presenting the lollipop to Dorothy!"

"Hey Maynard, I know this song is about your mom and all, but can you hold off on that next verse for an extra 3.2343 seconds? That way the Wicked Witch can start melting EXACTLY when one of the thunderclaps hits!"

Man, this is hilarious. Carry on. Let me know when you find out that "Ænima" matches up with "Toy Story".

Here's a tip: chill the fuck out.

Someone presented an idea, and some people rolled with it and others didn't. I edited the two together because I like editing. Of course it didn't work, but I don't feel stupid for doing it.

I'm 26, BTW.

Except that's not what he did at all. He matched up the "thud" in Wings with the thump of the house dropping, and then worked backwards to figure out where the album should start being played.

does anyone else remember this from a looong time ago:

from mtv.com:
If you think Tool's new epic, evocative Lateralus sounds like the futuristic soundtrack to a mind-blowing film, you're not alone. The bandmembers are as interested in presenting their art visually as musically, and they're thinking about creating a full-length Tool movie in the vein of Pink Floyd's "The Wall." "Pink Floyd are our heroes, and we'd totally love to do something on that level, but in our own way," guitarist Adam Jones said.

i'm sure tons of movies sync up with other movies. i'm sure some are done intentionally, and others are coincidence. i think this one is more intentional than coincidence. it may not be as cool as a hidden track, in fact it may seem stupid - wizard of oz and 10,000 days - but, until someone comes up with a better answer for the tool puzzle, puzzle solved.

ok say for a moment this is the conclusion to the puzzle, where are the correlations to the pics of band members and the 'dotted lines in the book, as well as the mandalas in the book as well as the new tool poster havign somethign to do with it, im not saying your wrong, and im not dismissing the fact blair bullshits...but i wonder if you have found any connections yet as opposed to jsut fluke