halo twenty eight. hesitation marks. 09.03.2013 [Archive] - Page 4

sick among the pure

07-03-2013, 11:08 PM

Very true. I can't wait for the first show to see what kind of setlist NIN comes back with. I'm glad TR decided to go back to the full NIN production (Lights In the Sky Tour/The Fragile Tour). I have a feeling we're going to get a diverse setlist. Fingers crossed for Happiness In Slavery live!

Reasons I won't be on ETS at all between the first show and the last show of the festival run. I want to be surprised at Made In America...

Emil Dorbell

07-04-2013, 01:34 AM

Reasons I won't be on ETS at all between the first show and the last show of the festival run. I want to be surprised at Made In America...

This is such a good idea, but I don't know if I'll be able to do it... those tour journals beckon me. I'll try though!

fillow

07-04-2013, 03:38 AM

The very second the album leaks, you'll see 86 new unread pages in this thread. When it comes to NIN, ETS is a better indicator than whatever link was posted earlier.

BenAkenobi

07-04-2013, 04:10 AM

when i followed the link, after several redirects and various advertisement pop-ups the site said “service temporarily unavailable, try again later”.
in short words: phishing.

Paperthin567

07-04-2013, 05:22 PM

I don't think it will be very good. Most likely a tie with "the Slip."

ensanchecedor

07-04-2013, 05:22 PM

I really hope the album will be leaked in a few weeks. Reading and Leeds dates take place the week before its released, so everybody should have the album by then, if not by the beginning of the tour :)

bruised

07-04-2013, 05:29 PM

Very true. I can't wait for the first show to see what kind of setlist NIN comes back with. I'm glad TR decided to go back to the full NIN production (Lights In the Sky Tour/The Fragile Tour). I have a feeling we're going to get a diverse setlist. Fingers crossed for Happiness In Slavery live!
The Fragile in it's entirety. Left in Vegas the 1st night, Right the 2nd.

NINfan04

07-04-2013, 08:20 PM

Reasons I won't be on ETS at all between the first show and the last show of the festival run. I want to be surprised at Made In America...

I live in the area but I have an issue with "festival" type shows. When there are so many different bands/artists, there isn't a core audience devoted to ONE band. IMO it's a completely different experience seeing a band at a festival type show than a headlining tour. I have tickets to the 10/19 show at Penn State. To each their own though. :)

Frozen Beach

07-04-2013, 08:28 PM

It hasn't leaked, trust me. I'll let you guys know if it ever does.

sick among the pure

07-04-2013, 11:09 PM

I live in the area but I have an issue with "festival" type shows. When there are so many different bands/artists, there isn't a core audience devoted to ONE band. IMO it's a completely different experience seeing a band at a festival type show than a headlining tour. I have tickets to the 10/19 show at Penn State. To each their own though. :)

Oh, I have tickets to a few arena shows, but a few key points came up in my mind that made me decide to go (plus, it's a 20 min subway and bus ride from my apartment, I've always had to travel at least 2 hours for a NIN show, usually closer to 5-12 hours.) For one, tickets are much cheaper (60-70 compared to 113). Since the production is going to be vastly different and something new according to Rob, I can imagine the setlist will be different enough to warrant. Since NIN is last, anyone who really doesn't want to see them can (and I imagine will) leave before the set, so it won't be like festivals where they play between bands. The show is before the new album, perfect way to experience both the excitement of "I have no idea what song this is the beginning of" like with Only or the WT tour version of La Mer, and the holy shit factor of experiencing a new song live as the first time hearing it.

I know festivals are different, and most would say not as good (I'd agree, but I have to wait to pass judgement) but I think there are plenty of reasons to go to this one for me. Plus, QOTSA is the same day, and I missed them opening for NIN.

thefragile_jake

07-04-2013, 11:32 PM

Maybe I'm too optimistic but I have an extremely positive feeling I'm going to like this record and it will probably be within my top five perhaps? Guess we'll have to see.

I'm still really sold on Came Back Haunted. I can't wait to hear some new songs!

PhoenixML

07-05-2013, 08:31 AM

AAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGAGAGGGGGAHHAWAAAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Still two months... I'm going insane waiting.... It's been a long time since I cared about waiting for a new upcoming album....

ninperu

07-05-2013, 10:56 PM

thefragile_jake

07-05-2013, 11:01 PM

hey guys, i've read that maybe the HM is already on the internet and a site from Mexico already has a review for the first 6 songs: http://www.sopitas.com/site/233620-nuestras-primeras-impresiones-de-hesitation-marks-el-nuevo-album-de-nine-inch-nails/

What a scatterbrained article. I wonder if this is really accurate or not.

It's probably not because they forgot to mention that "Disappointed" starts with this sample....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9gC1GiSDDA

Paperthin567

07-05-2013, 11:48 PM

What a scatterbrained article. I wonder if this is really accurate or not.

It's probably not because they forgot to mention that "Disappointed" starts with this sample....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9gC1GiSDDA

And it appears that "Came Back Haunted" is the best song of the first half of the album. How disappointing. It seems like Trent Reznor has lost his touch. Or another way of putting it, his misery.

TheBang

07-05-2013, 11:51 PM

hey guys, i've read that maybe the HM is already on the internet and a site from Mexico already has a review for the first 6 songs: http://www.sopitas.com/site/233620-nuestras-primeras-impresiones-de-hesitation-marks-el-nuevo-album-de-nine-inch-nails/
How come I'm hearing this from you and not Frozen Beach??! I want my money for this site back.

thefragile_jake

07-06-2013, 12:05 AM

And it appears that "Came Back Haunted" is the best song of the first half of the album. How disappointing. It seems like Trent Reznor has lost his touch. Or another way of putting it, his misery.

Eh. A random review of six tracks in a poorly written, in my opinion, article.

I'm not taking anything they say too serious as a reflection on how it'll end up.

Paperthin567

07-06-2013, 12:07 AM

Eh. A random review of six tracks in a poorly written, in my opinion, article.

I'm not taking anything they say too serious as a reflection on how it'll end up.

I hope that you're right. However, I am wondering if it really has leaked. Can anyone verify that already has an account if this is legit?

http://mp3face.com/nine-inch-nails-hesitation-marks-2013-new-album/

Paperthin567

07-06-2013, 12:15 AM

Frozen Beach

07-06-2013, 12:20 AM

If those downloads were real, then the album would already be on torrent sites.

Indefinite_Cure

07-06-2013, 12:44 AM

The very second the album leaks, you'll see 86 new unread pages in this thread. When it comes to NIN, ETS is a better indicator than whatever link was posted earlier.

To quote a famous movie...When this thing'll hit 88 miles (pages) an hour, you're gonna see some serious shit!

katara

07-06-2013, 08:16 AM

hey guys, i've read that maybe the HM is already on the internet and a site from Mexico already has a review for the first 6 songs: http://www.sopitas.com/site/233620-nuestras-primeras-impresiones-de-hesitation-marks-el-nuevo-album-de-nine-inch-nails/
All they said was that they heard the first six songs and they were songs, and Came Back Haunted is the best one. Yeah.

PhoenixML

07-06-2013, 12:40 PM

In "general", this site will tell the truth

http://hasitleaked.com/2013/nine-inch-nails-hesitation-marks/

As of today : no.

ninsp

07-06-2013, 01:09 PM

Got my Hesitation Marks shirt today!

jhulud

07-06-2013, 04:58 PM

tony.parente

07-06-2013, 07:35 PM

Surprised to have received the shirt I ordered with the HM pre-order earlier this week. OK. Works for me!

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff36/jhulud/Random/E056CB1F-8E4B-4D4F-B7BA-3EA74E5E3378-1483-00000038DA721B89.jpg

Got my red one today.

http://i.imgur.com/MLm3Utt.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/N8GjZMd.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JFduyTI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hv5ZNI6.jpg

Amaro

07-06-2013, 08:07 PM

Hey maybe the CD pre-orders will show up. haha

Leviathant

07-06-2013, 08:14 PM

Got my red one today.

Huh, that looks better than I figured it would. Kinda regretting not picking one up. Oh well.

MrSlfDstruct

07-06-2013, 10:07 PM

Yeah, I'm kind of pissed with myself for not ordering one after seeing these pictures.

Hopefully they'll have a red shirt in the merch booth.

spahn

07-06-2013, 10:35 PM

i've been anxiously checking the mail every day waiting for that red t-shirt to show up...and i live in south florida too. guess any day now.

Edit: Received my shirt today (07/08/2013). Looks fantastic.

trollmanen

07-06-2013, 10:59 PM

What brand are they printed on?

tony.parente

07-06-2013, 11:07 PM

What brand are they printed on?

http://i.imgur.com/PJO9307.jpg
Next level, pretty decent quality IMO

thefragile_jake

07-06-2013, 11:24 PM

FUUUUUUUUU, that red shirt looks perfect. Even more sad I didn't get one now. :(

Desolate Minds

07-07-2013, 02:52 AM

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1044676_10151723217340049_1760169259_n.jpghttps://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1017554_10151723217345049_1155016273_n.jpg

My 'Came Back Haunted', T-Shirt arrived on June 26th.

MrSlfDstruct

07-07-2013, 07:48 AM

How's the fit? The With Teeth and Slip shirts seemed to run pretty small.

tony.parente

07-07-2013, 12:13 PM

How's the fit? The With Teeth and Slip shirts seemed to run pretty small.
Perfect fit, dead on. They did a great job with these shirts.

jmtd

07-07-2013, 02:49 PM

Huh, that looks better than I figured it would. Kinda regretting not picking one up. Oh well.

Exactly the opposite take here: thinking the grey one looks better, wish I went that way instead!

DigitalChaos

07-07-2013, 03:34 PM

http://i.imgur.com/PJO9307.jpg
Next level, pretty decent quality IMO
god dammit
Those looked like American Apparel tags in the photos. This Next Level Apparel shit looks like an AA knockoff. I hope it is somewhat close in terms of quality and durability. Hope it's nothing like the horrible Gildan (and similar) shirts that you can literally pull out of a basket of shirts with your eyes closed.

meh, Nicaragua gave Snowden political asylum so there's that...

brokenfragility

07-07-2013, 08:03 PM

Man, I really wish I would have ordered one of those shirts. The halo twenty eight one is especially cool. I really dig the new logo, especially on that shit.

DigitalChaos

07-07-2013, 09:00 PM

so happy I got 1 of each shirt type!

Paperthin567

07-07-2013, 10:28 PM

so happy I got 1 of each shirt type!

Wow! This is such stimulating conversation.

butter_hole

07-09-2013, 09:33 PM

CBH is up to #7

http://www.billboard.com/charts/alternative-songs

thevoid99

07-09-2013, 09:35 PM

CBH is up to #7

http://www.billboard.com/charts/alternative-songs

I finally heard it on the radio a few days ago. It just feels good to listen to new NIN on the radio as I don't listen to radio very often.

Twiggy

07-11-2013, 09:47 AM

I received my tshirt in the UK as well. Didn't have a clue what it was before I opened it.

Great quality.

Frozen Beach

07-11-2013, 01:43 PM

Am I the only one who has the feeling that a new single will be issued a week before the albums out?

buckaroo

07-11-2013, 02:31 PM

Am I the only one who has the feeling that a new single will be issued a week before the albums out?

i think we'll get one before that. maybe at the end of this month or the beginning of august. am i the only one disappointed with this marketing campaign so far? i see ads all over for the album and tour, which is great, but there has not been much in the way of music, samples, artwork, interviews, etc. it seems like they decided to put out a single before they were ready just to promote the festival shows. these days i think traditional promotion can actually hurt album interest/sales. I was really excited for this when they released came back haunted and like most things a day or so later i was on to something new (thanks internet). I think these days you either need to release something immediately or have a steady stream of promotion to keep people interested. Like samples, album art or track names every few days and a bunch of interviews. The window of excitement is pretty slim... maybe i am the only one who feels like that. i'm sure i'll get excited after the first show, after the next single, and again closer to release. i guess it doesn't really matter since they already got my money.

dlb

07-11-2013, 03:22 PM

Well, the first show is about two weeks away so I'm pretty sure that we will get another bite of the album before that. While I agree that this could be a more exciting venture overall I'll remain patient. The anouncement of the new record came rather unexpected and left a pretty little window for them to come up with ARG-like stuff and I doubt that while deep in rehearsals Trent wants to leave almost every aspect of marketing up to the label. This release follows a regular album release of any artist the way they used to be and I actually like that. Especially since we're experiencing an overkill in music marketing right now that left me pretty tired in mere weeks (e.g. Daft Punk, Kanye, Jay-Z and the list goes on...).

We were given artwork, new merch, a single, a tour anouncement, line-up changes, pictures and a single with an accompaning music video by an acclaimed director and some interviews within 4 weeks. Oh and there's a full tour up ahead until the end of the year with lots of surprises to be expected - I can't say that I'm not excited to be honest. ;)

howdidislipinto

07-11-2013, 04:03 PM

This Facebook ad is like a cruel, taunting joke, constantly shoving in our face what we can't have. WHY, GODDAMMIT WHY.

Paperthin567

07-11-2013, 08:41 PM

This Facebook ad is like a cruel, taunting joke, constantly shoving in our face what we can't have. WHY, GODDAMMIT WHY.

Don't take God's name in vein.

TheBang

07-11-2013, 08:58 PM

Don't take God's name in vein.
Yes, snorting is the only proscribed way to take it.

BRoswell

07-11-2013, 09:03 PM

I prefer God butt-chugging myself.

Paperthin567

07-11-2013, 09:13 PM

Yes, snorting is the only proscribed way to take it.
God forgives you. I do too.

Paperthin567

07-11-2013, 09:13 PM

I prefer God butt-chugging myself.
God forgives you. I do too.

sheepdean

07-11-2013, 09:25 PM

Didn't you hear? God is dead.

and no one cares

Paperthin567

07-11-2013, 10:05 PM

Didn't you hear? God is dead.

and no one cares

Not true. God created this beautiful planet and Jesus is the reason we are saved (if you believe in Him). And you too can get into Heaven, if you just believe.

Ryan

07-11-2013, 10:07 PM

First post made by this person:

You can't be serious. Can you? If he puts Q on the album, NIN's credibility will be forever lost. Sorry, but she does not belong on a NIN record. And stop trolling.

lol.

Paperthin567

07-11-2013, 10:15 PM

First post made by this person:

lol.

I'm not trolling. It's how I really feel.

slave2thewage

07-11-2013, 10:18 PM

I met Jesus once. He made me a burrito and mowed my lawn. Nice fella.

On-topic edit: iTunes Ireland has a release date of 30th of August. HNNNG, tempted to preorder even though I've already ordered the deluxe CD.

FULLMETAL

07-11-2013, 10:47 PM

Only God Forgives.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcl2hnhze3E

To get back on topic, anyone think we'll get another "single" before the album drops?

thefragile_jake

07-11-2013, 11:02 PM

To get back on topic, anyone think we'll get another "single" before the album drops?

That seems to be the norm these days right? You hear at least one more track before the record drops...like somewhere will debut a new record cut or something?

I can even remember before With Teeth came out, Best Buy debuted Every Day Is Exactly the Same on their site...so I'm sure we'll hear another track sometime next month.

ZeroSum

07-12-2013, 12:37 AM

I hope it leaks within the next few weeks, I cant wait any longer.

Ryan

07-12-2013, 01:25 AM

I hope it leaks within the next few weeks, I cant wait any longer.

Me too, particularly the track "While I'm Still Here".

Vertigo

07-12-2013, 01:40 AM

Me too, particularly the track "While I'm Still Here".

Going somewhere?

...Sorry.

slave2thewage

07-12-2013, 06:19 AM

I Would For You is the one I'm most excited to hear, personally.

icklekitty

07-12-2013, 06:21 AM

slave2thewage

07-12-2013, 07:13 AM

We might have seen some of the songs live by then.
It might be like BFTS again and we'll be tearing our hair out trying to hear the songs we like again.

sheepdean

07-12-2013, 10:10 AM

I hope it leaks within the next few weeks, I cant wait any longer.
Honestly, I can handle a few weeks' wait, anticipation is a good thing.

baudolino

07-12-2013, 11:50 AM

i am living in germany and received my red t-shirt today! looks decent, yay

jmtd

07-12-2013, 12:27 PM

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/13/gy4ydade.jpg
Voila

tony.parente

07-12-2013, 12:41 PM

Can we just start following trent into every bathroom he goes in to and check for any fallen USB drives?

slave2thewage

07-12-2013, 01:24 PM

Most of those USBs weren't in the bathroom, just so you know. I got the In This Twilight one and it was on the barrier at the "Trent spot".

DigitalChaos

07-12-2013, 01:55 PM

Not true. God created this beautiful planet and Jesus is the reason we are saved (if you believe in Him). And you too can get into Heaven, if you just believe.
Telling the holy trinity to eat a bag of dicks is win-win. You get to keep your dignity by not believing in infantile magic AND you ensure yourself a post-life eternity that isn't alongside detestable individuals such as yourself.

troll harder bro

Lew

07-12-2013, 03:05 PM

Don't take God's name in vein.

psssst...it is "in vain".
but i am certain you have been forgiven for this already.

butter_hole

07-12-2013, 10:44 PM

Most of those USBs weren't in the bathroom, just so you know. I got the In This Twilight one and it was on the barrier at the "Trent spot".
was it just sitting there or were you handed it by someone in the NIN entourage?

Paperthin567

07-13-2013, 12:25 AM

psssst...it is "in vain".
but i am certain you have been forgiven for this already.

I really appreciate you letting me know, bro. It was a slip-up on my part.

slave2thewage

07-13-2013, 06:04 AM

was it just sitting there or were you handed it by someone in the NIN entourage?
Sitting there. It was stuck onto an AIR flyer that was just on the barrier. The ones with the Survivalism video were all over the Brixton Academy though.

tony.parente

07-13-2013, 10:50 AM

Sitting there. It was stuck onto an AIR flyer that was just on the barrier. The ones with the Survivalism video were all over the Brixton Academy though.

I would probably jump up and down and shriek like a girl if I found something like that at my show.

slave2thewage

07-13-2013, 11:09 AM

More like "Ooooh, I wonder what's on this!" and then facing the stage again for another four hours. Shame I gave it away to get ITT onto the internet for all you lot since I was doing the tour and wouldn't be online for a few days.

imail724

07-13-2013, 11:10 AM

How early do song snippets usually get put up on iTunes/Amazon?

slave2thewage

07-13-2013, 12:13 PM

How early do song snippets usually get put up on iTunes/Amazon?
It varies. The earliest is normally a month or three weeks before release date.

PhoenixML

07-16-2013, 08:49 AM

10 days!! oh he better play new songs... or else... nothing....

fillow

07-16-2013, 08:58 AM

Oh. This means 10 days till I ban myself from all NIN-related threads at ets to avoid setlist spoilers.

Ash512

07-16-2013, 09:29 AM

Oh. This means 10 days till I ban myself from all NIN-related threads at ets to avoid setlist spoilers.
Wish I had the strenght to do that...

fillow

07-16-2013, 09:37 AM

Good thing it's not for too long. Just a couple of weeks till Pukkelpop.
All you Americans... good luck with that! :)

dpeters

07-16-2013, 08:17 PM

Good thing it's not for too long. Just a couple of weeks till Pukkelpop.
All you Americans... good luck with that! :)
I've embraced the shaky cam spoilers of new albums. It's my preferred method.

Sidenote: NPR actually had professional, live video recordings of most of the QotSA album up before it was released. I'm assuming that Columbia is smart.

skullboy0

07-17-2013, 10:03 AM

Sidenote: NPR actually had professional, live video recordings of most of the QotSA album up before it was released. I'm assuming that Columbia is smart.

NPR livestreamed the show from the Wiltern, I watched most of it until it was far past my bedtime. & when I've got chores to do around the house I'll usually put the YouTube version of the show on my TV as background.

FULLMETAL

07-17-2013, 11:04 AM

Each version of the album will have a unique cover!

http://nineinchnails.tumblr.com/post/55697135231/each-version-of-hesitation-marks-will-have-its-own

caterault

07-17-2013, 11:05 AM

Look's pretty sweet. However I think the Standard CD art is the least appealing, while the vinyl looks by far the best. I do love the contrast on the DE CD though. Interesting to see the placeholder cover art isn't a thing.

slave2thewage

07-17-2013, 11:06 AM

On first glance, the digital and vinyl covers are my favourite. I may succumb and pre-order the digital, which has the added bonus of getting to me in August (well, the 30th).

caterault

07-17-2013, 11:07 AM

Doesn't ordering from the official site give you a link to download the whole album digitally upon release?

The Reason Being

07-17-2013, 11:09 AM

I like them all except the ugly ass vinyl cover, which is a shame because it's the only format I wanted. I'll go for deluxe and digital.

screwdriver

07-17-2013, 11:11 AM

well, that settles it -- getting the vinyl. that cover is dope

Jon

07-17-2013, 11:13 AM

I like them all except the ugly ass vinyl cover, which is a shame because it's the only format I wanted. I'll go for deluxe and digital.

That "ugly ass vinyl cover" has a horribly-lit Christmas tree, you scrooge.

Amaro

07-17-2013, 11:14 AM

I'm pretty sure I like almost all of these new covers more than the one we were under the impression to be the only cover. The color scheme and "N" composition just never quite rubbed me the right way.

I'm digging the DE cover the most...definitely glad I pre-ordered that one. The digital cover with the matches is pretty tight, too. I'm trying to take in the vinyl cover...in some ways I see a bootleg cover when I look at it, but I'm intrigued enough by it. Clearly the most informative or elaborate NIN cover in existence. The top-left bit looks a bit like the Closure artwork.

caterault

07-17-2013, 11:17 AM

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151755732841221&set=a.10151674532256221.1073741826.19787971220&type=1&theater Well that's interesting. The nin FB page lists the cover we already saw as the iTunes Deluxe Digital Cover.

tony.parente

07-17-2013, 11:21 AM

How to get NIN fans to buy 5 versions of the same album 101.

Riley

07-17-2013, 11:31 AM

That was probably going to happen anyway.

Fangster_

07-17-2013, 11:42 AM

This is the best news ever this week. Now I can say I hated it from the start and get that gorgeus Deluxe thingy and actually enjoy looking at it.

jessamineny

07-17-2013, 11:43 AM

30 mixed media pieces? They totally need to go Mouth Taped Shut with those things.

Deepvoid

07-17-2013, 11:56 AM

Agree that the Deluxe CD cover looks amazing. Will be getting this one for sure.

ultimatebdp

07-17-2013, 11:58 AM

I would love to have prints of the digital, standard and deluxe images. Much nicer than the orange and blue with fishing lures...

cashpiles (closed)

07-17-2013, 11:59 AM

Just found out the news. The vinyl and standard covers are fucking cool.

tremolo

07-17-2013, 12:09 PM

All the covers are amazing! Even the standard CD cover with the microscope slides... yes, it's simple, but beautiful.

I'm curious about the other pieces, I wish I could afford Mills' art :(

sheepdean

07-17-2013, 12:12 PM

How to get NIN fans to buy 5 versions of the same album 101.
I'm never sure where musical pretentiousness ends and capitalism begins these days

BRoswell

07-17-2013, 12:13 PM

Each version of the album will have a unique cover!

http://nineinchnails.tumblr.com/post/55697135231/each-version-of-hesitation-marks-will-have-its-own

*swoon*

Best NIN artwork in years. (Sorry Rob).

jhulud

07-17-2013, 12:15 PM

It'd be kinda sweet if they released some limited edition art prints signed by Reznor and Mills of these. I know I'd buy all.

pigpen

07-17-2013, 12:22 PM

So, I'm going to assume that the numbers on these things are going to be quite large, meaning that there won't be
an edition that I'm scrambling around to get/regretting having not pre-ordered, right?

I plan on preordering the vinyl from Amazon, for the shipping fee's, or lack of considering it's at 25.95 right now.

thefragile_jake

07-17-2013, 12:40 PM

This is really cool! I saw the news but I'm just now on my lunch at work and caught it. I'm pumped on that deluxe edition as well as the vinyl cover, I might have to pick that vinyl up!

So what does this mean for the original cover now? I take it that it's nonexistent since the new covers are out?

Either way, awesome stuff.

The Reason Being

07-17-2013, 12:47 PM

staleincense

07-17-2013, 12:49 PM

I like them all except the ugly ass vinyl cover, which is a shame because it's the only format I wanted. I'll go for deluxe and digital.
I think ugly was what they were really going for with that cover, I kind of like the feeling of decay it evokes personally. But yeah, I can understand why some people might not like it.

staleincense

07-17-2013, 12:51 PM

I wonder which one will remain the 'official' cover, e.g in reviews, wiki etc. I've never really had to choose between covers for an album other than Gorillaz' Plastic Beach, HTDA was almost too subtle to count. Any other good examples of albums with varying artwork?
Probably the one they've been using up to this point, which by looks of it is the iTunes (and other digital?) deluxe edition.

halo33

07-17-2013, 01:02 PM

I just hope the music matches the feel of this artwork more than CBH did so far.

snaapz

07-17-2013, 01:39 PM

I just hope the music matches the feel of this artwork more than CBH did so far.

Amen! Oxidized and decaying synergy which has been influenced by humans.

I continue to enjoy CBH more each day... The Lynch video defiantly gave the song a different angle & feeling. I like the vocal techniques, modular synth, synth strings, guitar & synth basssssss & other textures...

Do the textures we are seeing match the sounds we are hearing? I.E. that synth sound we hear come in at 0:19 in the Lynch video. I'm guessing it's some sort of arp mod synth....

Anyways, just over 1 week until NIN hits the stage. Will they play new trax or save it for Tension?

Amaro

07-17-2013, 01:43 PM

Oh fucking my "God" the new songs will be upon us that soon... I'm gonna celebrate early. Beer me!

DigitalChaos

07-17-2013, 01:46 PM

The digital is awesome. The vinyl is my least favorite... unless those images are going to have some relevance.
I still love the blue/orange/fly-hooks. It's a tie between that and the digital for me.

Also, it seems we just got a sort of preview of the rest of this album:

The artworks ... evolved out of lengthy exchanges between myself and Trent and in response to the conceptual ideas that thread through the tracks and to the sonic territory that the album explores. I’ve tried to lock into the album’s prevailing mood and echo the album’s essence.
...
The works explore ideas of catharsis, of being into dissolution into being, both on a personal and sociological level. They allude to ideas about chaos and order. They deal with ways of suggesting presence in absence. They are a cross between the forensic and a pathology of the personal in which only fragments remain, in which minimal clues can suggest events that may have occurred. They attempt to harness the chaos of a situation, of now, of the personal trauma, of the human condition, into a form that is coherent, a form that accommodates the mess without disguising it as something else. It attempts to capture the essence of these ideas by implication and exclusion. Beneath the form lies the uncertainty and ceaseless flux of the mess, of the chaos.
An amalgam of the contextually-anchored and the process-driven, they are hopefully powerful, arresting, seductive, suggestive and resonant. I hope that they will invite multiple readings.

Scarlet Siren

07-17-2013, 01:53 PM

Time to change my Facebook 'cover' again!!! Whoop!!! :p

On a serious note, I too hope the music matches the feel of the artwork, I can't wait to see the physical versions (it's nice looking at artwork on screens and all but I get something more out of hardcopy) and it would be sweet if the artwork was available to purchase. I'm definitely liking all of this.

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howdidislipinto

07-17-2013, 01:59 PM

Wow. I actually quite like them all. And I like that they're all somewhat minimalist except for the vinyl, since vinyl art gets to be the biggest and that just makes sense. I understand some of you not liking it, but as a fan of Neil Gaiman's Sandman and Dave McKean's covers for that series, it's hard not to love. I'd already ordered the DE and the vinyl, which came with the digital... no big deal to pick up the standard at some point if NIN collecting tendencies awaken.

Do we think the orange/black image with the new logo might be the back cover? Inside cover? Booklet cover? I wonder. Seems so strange to essentially show us that image every day (amirite, Facebook users?) and now not have it be on any of the editions.

hobochic

07-17-2013, 02:01 PM

Looking good. The artwork, aside from obviously looking like Mills' earlier work, has the touch of Dave Mckean's early work for The Sandman covers. Especially the slides and colored frames furthest down.

Edit: The vinyl cover has a character that looks like Antichrist Superstar era Manson in a black and white photo. Probably not him, still something to make one go hmmm.

fillow

07-17-2013, 02:08 PM

Any other good examples of albums with varying artwork?
*cough* Zeitgeist *cough*

richardp

07-17-2013, 02:09 PM

Man I really do not like that vinyl cover at all. It just looks like a jumbled mess. The deluxe CD cover looks like a tampon, but I like it. [Bleed_Through]_PT>2.

jessamineny

07-17-2013, 02:23 PM

Also, it seems we just got a sort of preview of the rest of this album:

The artworks ... evolved out of lengthy exchanges between myself and Trent and in response to the conceptual ideas that thread through the tracks and to the sonic territory that the album explores. I’ve tried to lock into the album’s prevailing mood and echo the album’s essence.
...
The works explore ideas of catharsis, of being into dissolution into being, both on a personal and sociological level. They allude to ideas about chaos and order. They deal with ways of suggesting presence in absence. They are a cross between the forensic and a pathology of the personal in which only fragments remain, in which minimal clues can suggest events that may have occurred. They attempt to harness the chaos of a situation, of now, of the personal trauma, of the human condition, into a form that is coherent, a form that accommodates the mess without disguising it as something else. It attempts to capture the essence of these ideas by implication and exclusion. Beneath the form lies the uncertainty and ceaseless flux of the mess, of the chaos.
An amalgam of the contextually-anchored and the process-driven, they are hopefully powerful, arresting, seductive, suggestive and resonant. I hope that they will invite multiple readings.

Though everything there can be applied to global themes throughout the NIN catalog

halo33

07-17-2013, 02:24 PM

I understand some of you not liking it, but as a fan of Neil Gaiman's Sandman and Dave McKean's covers for that series, it's hard not to love.

Totally the first thing I thought of as well. I've always loved that collage style. Really looking forward to getting this in the mail. Hope it comes with a nice big book. Considering Russell has stated there are 30 different pieces, safe to assume we will.

Highly Psychological

07-17-2013, 03:10 PM

The vinyl cover reminds me a bit of My Bloody Valentine's new record cover.

I think i like the vinyl one the best. I like the photos on it, they are all so weird and slightly sinister, i love trying to make sense of them.

simonn

07-17-2013, 03:14 PM

I wonder which one will remain the 'official' cover, e.g in reviews, wiki etc. I've never really had to choose between covers for an album other than Gorillaz' Plastic Beach, HTDA was almost too subtle to count. Any other good examples of albums with varying artwork?

Well the benchmark is obviously Metallica's St Anger, with the choice of a variety of colours on offer...

MrSlfDstruct

07-17-2013, 03:16 PM

Maybe this is dumb, but I'm wondering if the digital cover will only be on the actual digital purchases, or for the digital versions that are sent out for nin.com preorders of the physical release as well.

I'd assume digital means digital, but it'd be cool if the digital artwork matched the version that was ordered. Seems like a logistical pain in the ass though.

jmtd

07-17-2013, 03:21 PM

Standard cd is my fave, and I'd wager that and digital need to be the most accessible to casual fans and newbies

simonn

07-17-2013, 03:46 PM

Wonder whether the booklet that comes with the deluxe may contain further Mills work. Like what I'm seeing here, though having ordered the deluxe some time ago, I do find it the least interesting. Loving the vinyl as it happens, but won't get it as I don't own a record player and don't have unlimited funds (saving for multiple UK dates!).

richardp

07-17-2013, 04:14 PM

I wonder which one will remain the 'official' cover, e.g in reviews, wiki etc. I've never really had to choose between covers for an album other than Gorillaz' Plastic Beach, HTDA was almost too subtle to count. Any other good examples of albums with varying artwork?

Arcade Fire's The Suburbs is the best example of recent. There were at least 10 different covers for that thing.

eversonpoe

07-17-2013, 04:35 PM

Arcade Fire's The Suburbs is the best example of recent. There were at least 10 different covers for that thing.

holy crap, you're right! i had no idea there were cover variations because i never looked closely enough. : /

Senateguard33

07-17-2013, 04:38 PM

fillow

07-17-2013, 04:50 PM

I don't get it, what's with the originally announced cover? (the one that only has a new logo and no album title)
What version was it for?

Also, I'd love to see more artwork in the vein of the first blue pic ( http://25.media.tumblr.com/ae03394b8eafc11035069d75c661af2b/tumblr_mnxvukqu3I1s726nxo1_1280.jpg)

screwdriver

07-17-2013, 04:52 PM

The facebook post mentioned "associated singles". What I really want to know is, where are the singles?? It would be great if Trent released awesome singles/EPs for this new album like he did during the Downward Spiral days. March of the Pigs, Closer To God and Further Down The Spiral all had great remixes and b-sides.

no personal offense intended, but I love NIN fans' limitless ability to whine, even in the face of awesome development (this art is amazing)

I'm certainly just as guilty myself, so don't take this as anything more than some lighthearted, self-aware ribbing :-)

howdidislipinto

07-17-2013, 05:01 PM

Max Leo

07-17-2013, 06:05 PM

http://25.media.tumblr.com/703ca8b3a7002daf7025154887ab647d/tumblr_mq37xlokw41s726nxo3_500.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/oJoC3uN.jpg

Henrie_Schnee

07-17-2013, 07:28 PM

http://25.media.tumblr.com/703ca8b3a7002daf7025154887ab647d/tumblr_mq37xlokw41s726nxo3_500.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/oJoC3uN.jpg

Jep, they were pretty inspired by the Russell Mills artwork, ever since SH2, they are a bunch of references. Things come full circle, yay! :-D

Space Suicide

07-17-2013, 08:55 PM

Am I alone when I say the deluxe cover reminds me of the Head Down artwork from The Slip?

http://2a56b976980e0793ddee-5cc5435fcbc367bb03f9a415e7067a97.r91.cf2.rackcdn.c om/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Hesitation-Marks-deluxe.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6094/6854181914_c14d3965a9.jpg

ryanmcfly

07-17-2013, 09:23 PM

The artwork is great and all, but I want more music now.

FernandoDante

07-17-2013, 10:29 PM

Probably alone on this one, but hey, that's what facepalms are for.
http://i42.tinypic.com/2i7r0cm.jpg

ultimatebdp

07-17-2013, 10:56 PM

As much as I love TDS, I always thought the art on the inside booklet was better than the cover...especially in the 10th anniversary edition. Carson's Fragile artwork was very cool for what it was, but Russell Mills has really stepped it up for this new album!! I can't wait to see the hardcover book! I just hope it's bigger than the size of a cd as the hardcover "book" of art that came with Tool's Salival was pretty lame because it was so small.

perceptionnexus

07-18-2013, 12:10 AM

surprised there hasn't been any discussion yet about the photos on the vinyl cover. WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN? Also, any tech savy folks down for making iphone wallpapers out of these bad boys?

howdidislipinto

07-18-2013, 01:14 AM

I wonder what made them go with the TDS font? Not a criticism, obviously it looks great combined with Russell's artwork. They just must have known the combination of the font and the artwork style carries weight with all us nerds, and I can't wait to hear their thought process. I hope we get a Rob interview like on that album art site where they discussed the process for the PHM reissue.

And while I know we won't see it, I can't help but be curious what other fonts they tried before settling on the TDS font (if any, obviously). I know the non-obsessed would never even notice, but for us it probably would give the artwork a completely different feel and a definitely a very different emotional reaction than that moment we first saw the potent-to-us combination of art style and font a few weeks back.

...this is definitely the nerdiest thing I've ever written.

Amaro

07-18-2013, 01:33 AM

It's just gotta be related to TDS...somehow.

gorast

07-18-2013, 02:02 AM

All those covers look pretty cool. I'm liking the idea of each version having a different cover, completely different instead of variations, even.

danebraddy

07-18-2013, 03:21 AM

Between the artwork/font and the TDS motif in Came Back Haunted, I think it's a safe bet this album relates to the downward spiral...

Personally I think it's going to do with the 'Self Destruct' era on TR - how it changed him, put him in the spotlight and nearly killed him. 'Consequences for what I've done'

But speculation on theme would be a little silly at this stage.

jmtd

07-18-2013, 04:10 AM

Arcade Fire's The Suburbs is the best example of recent. There were at least 10 different covers for that thing.

Probably entirely superfluous link to http://embed.arcadefire.com/artwork/artwork_jpeg.html , but I just found it and enjoyed it.

Trains

07-18-2013, 08:53 AM

Do you guys think it will only be the nin.com orders that have these cover variations, or will copies bought from amazon, HMV etc have them too?

Max Leo

07-18-2013, 09:08 AM

hey guys, i've read that maybe the HM is already on the internet and a site from Mexico already has a review for the first 6 songs: http://www.sopitas.com/site/233620-nuestras-primeras-impresiones-de-hesitation-marks-el-nuevo-album-de-nine-inch-nails/

http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/1709-NIN-Spotting-2013-(Part-2-2)?p=102007#post102007

AlanMorlock

07-18-2013, 09:46 AM

surprised there hasn't been any discussion yet about the photos on the vinyl cover. WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN? Also, any tech savy folks down for making iphone wallpapers out of these bad boys?

Ask and you shall receive.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t309/redhawk239/hesitation5_zps708a3cb4.png

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t309/redhawk239/hesitation1_zpsab1fb039.png

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t309/redhawk239/hesitation4_zpsbe31f62e.png

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t309/redhawk239/hesitation3_zps6b3e6b1b.png

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t309/redhawk239/hesitation2_zpsa224148d.png

AlanMorlock

07-18-2013, 09:55 AM

And it appears that "Came Back Haunted" is the best song of the first half of the album. How disappointing. It seems like Trent Reznor has lost his touch. Or another way of putting it, his misery.

1 reviewer saying they liked Came back haunted the most does not make it definitively the best song out of the 5 or 6 they heard, much less the whole album.

jesus

07-18-2013, 10:09 AM

I haven't noticed the Downward Spiral font until you mentioned hahahahahah you guys are really into that

baudolino

07-18-2013, 10:10 AM

I haven't noticed the Downward Spiral font until you mentioned hahahahahah you guys are really into that

If you say so.

nineismine

07-18-2013, 11:20 AM

And it appears that "Came Back Haunted" is the best song of the first half of the album. How disappointing. It seems like Trent Reznor has lost his touch. Or another way of putting it, his misery.

Call me crazy but if you didn't like came back haunted very much, and this guy says it is the best song on the album and praises it, doesn't that possibly suggest that his taste might vary from yours enough that you may actually like all of the other songs more than him?

I mean wouldn't you expect a good album by nine inch nails to be hard to digest for alot of critics?

theSplinter04

07-18-2013, 11:50 AM

Am I alone when I say the deluxe cover reminds me of the Head Down artwork from The Slip?

ARG confirmed

richardp

07-18-2013, 11:52 AM

And it appears that "Came Back Haunted" is the best song of the first half of the album. How disappointing. It seems like Trent Reznor has lost his touch. Or another way of putting it, his misery.

Jesus fucking christ, I'm sorry but how the FUCK are you going to automatically throw your hands up and say "Welp, RIP NIN. Trent's done for. He's gone soft." after reading some shitty ass "review" of the supposed first 6 songs of the album. Are you that shallow and unable to form your own opinions?

And why do I have to keep saying this over and over and over again. So what if he's "lost his misery"? He has a wife and children. All you NIN fans stuck on TDS need to do some serious soul searching and get the hell over yourselves.

jessamineny

07-18-2013, 12:10 PM

Please keep in mind that this is the same person who went on a "don't take God's name in vein (sic)" mini-troll several pages back.

Space Suicide

07-18-2013, 12:11 PM

I'll show you how ruling on reviews and general consensus of aforementioned thoughts don't mean shit.

[With_Teeth] everyone loves and things Right Where It Belongs is the best track on the latter half of the album. I can honesty say I'm not a big fan of the song and find everything after the title track better than RWIB.

Judging an album that has 2 months to come out as crap because some schmuck thinks that Came Back Haunted is the best of that bunch that was reviewed is kinda lame as a fan of any band, not just NIN.

richardp

07-18-2013, 12:12 PM

Please keep in mind that this is the same person who went on a "don't take God's name in vein (sic)" mini-troll several pages back.

You're right. I just edited my post accordingly.

Blackbookpress1984

07-18-2013, 12:12 PM

After viewing the artwork, which to me, is very reminiscent of TDS and Closure, I am hoping for something that is a little more raw and leads back to the TDS sounding days. As much as I love the new stuff, the old is great too, and obviously NIN has its roots there. Anyhow that's my two cents on my hopes. My fear is that the album will be too electronically influenced and come out sounding like twelve tracks of Only

Space Suicide

07-18-2013, 12:15 PM

jessamineny

07-18-2013, 12:26 PM

And why do I have to keep saying this over and over and over again. So what if he's "lost his misery"? He has a wife and children. All you NIN fans stuck on TDS need to do some serious soul searching and get the hell over yourselves.

I don't mean this as an attack on you, but more of a "keep this in mind" because I see so many people say similar things...

Can we not use the fact that he has a wife and children as proof that he's no longer a miserable fuck/has achieved the bliss he's always deserved/will never go back down the rabbit hole/etc.? Because people with spouses and children suffer from major depression, have relapses, attempt suicide... I'm not suggesting in any way that these things have happened to him, but more that it's a disservice to ourselves and others in our lives (especially those who might be struggling) when we follow this constrictive line of reasoning.

Blackbookpress1984

07-18-2013, 12:26 PM

As long as it sounds nothing like The Slip and nothing like Ghosts I-IV or the soundtracks he's done with Ross I'm good to go.

I can agree with most of that. I like the slip a lot actually, and the scores are fantastic when heard along with the film. but as stand alone pieces, I do not like them.

Amaro

07-18-2013, 12:52 PM

The funny thing I find with the "Bring it ALL back to TDS, Trent!" sentiment is I actually believe it's going that way in a strong sense, based on all of the artwork and most importantly the sounds of/in CBH, but since the song is not verbatim a MOTP type thing or whatever so blatantly obviously musically akin to TDS, the complaints will continue. Nevertheless, such complaints are pathetic and annoying, like that of a child's demands; this is something brand new to digest, in a very NIN fashion, dare I say! And it's the only damn song released so far, placed as track 3 on the album... But, analytical stuff aside, you either like or don't. Determine WHY you don't or do though, maybe. Be honest. Have an open discussion.

The even funnier thing is people apparently think organic sounding electronics and all that shiz are synonymous with Trent's low points in life. Jesus LOL Christ.

snaapz

07-18-2013, 01:19 PM

Someone can be "at peace" or at least somewhat level headed and still partake in the dark, mysterious, horrorific and obscene shock art and not have to be labled fucked up in the head or depressed. Nor should being level headed take away from the authenticity of the works. Infact some of the best works come from people who "have it together". Not saying they havent had their moments... like any of us have...

Fede Alvarez
Rob Zombie
Stephen King
George R. R. Martin
Stanley Kubrick
Alice Cooper
Ivan Reitman
etc....

Here's the problem everyone is worried about.

True story of mine. One of my friends is an aspiring musician. One night, on a dirty couch in an unfinished basement we were talking about a jam session we just had, our ears were still ringing, we were getting wasted and our lives were all over the map in terms of finances, jobs, women.... I said something to him that night that both opened his eyes and scared him. See at this point in time he was writing decent tracks with lyrics loaded with emotion and excellent connections etc...

"Jim... if we get it together... wife, stable job, lay off the drugs and booze, maybe start a family, cut some friends... what the fuck will you have to write about?"

jessamineny

07-18-2013, 01:27 PM

"Everyone" is not worried about that.

(I agree with the very beginning of your post, however.)

sick among the pure

07-18-2013, 01:42 PM

hay guise theres a new nin album coming out soon lets all be excited and happy yay

screwdriver

07-18-2013, 02:22 PM

hay guise theres a new nin album coming out soon lets all be excited and happy yay

nin fans? excited and happy??

that's not in my blood

perceptionnexus

07-18-2013, 03:01 PM

Ask and you shall receive.

They look great! Thanks for doing this Alan!

nineismine

07-18-2013, 03:02 PM

As long as it sounds nothing like The Slip and nothing like Ghosts I-IV or the soundtracks he's done with Ross I'm good to go.

Honestly I don't see how someone can be a nine inch nails fan and NOT like songs like Echoplex and head down...

If the album sounds like head down, im in..

Space Suicide

07-18-2013, 03:05 PM

Honestly I don't see how someone can be a nine inch nails fan and NOT like songs like Echoplex and head down...

If the album sounds like head down, im in..

I like Letting You, Head Down, The Four of Us Are Dying and Demon Seed. I can take or leave the rest of that album.

nineismine

07-18-2013, 03:28 PM

I like Letting You, Head Down, The Four of Us Are Dying and Demon Seed. I can take or leave the rest of that album.

Man I know I am in the minority around here with this but the slip to me is a totally solid album. There are some weaker points but they are made up for with the awesomeness of some of the better songs.

If the new album inherits any of the elements of head down, or 1,000,000 , or even echoplex or discipline ill be happy. To me It doesn't matter if he makes a couple poppy songs as long as they are pleasing to my ears and if they are not poppy but they evoke some real emotions from me or are interesting to listen to in a musical but not science experiment sort of way Im in!

Oh and thanks for getting me on another head down kick! :P

Paperthin567

07-18-2013, 03:44 PM

I come back after a few days and notice a lot of bitching about comments that I've made. So what if I believe in God and Jesus Christ as my savior? I was expressing my personal beliefs, as all you do in here too. It's an open forum for discussion. (It's only trolling if you don't really feel that way and are trying to get a reaction out of people. I 100% feel secure in my beliefs. It's obvious that atheists (the majority of NIN fans are) don't want to hear it, so I won't mention it again.

And with respect to how I feel about "Came Back Haunted," I was simply trying to keep my hopes down. That's one of the largest ways to set yourself up for disappointment is to have too high of expectations for something. In all honesty, I'm not really sure what to expect with this next record. But I'm hopeful that we all will like it.

And no, I am by no means wanting or expecting TDS, I just feel that sometimes the best creative material can come from one's most difficult times.

BRoswell

07-18-2013, 03:52 PM

So what if I believe in God and Jesus Christ as my savior? I was expressing my personal beliefs, as all you do in here too.

That's all well and good, except when you push it on others by saying stuff like "Don't take the Lord's name in vain", as if everyone should follow the rules of your religion on a public forum. Yeah, that ain't gonna happen.

hobochic

07-18-2013, 04:09 PM

Loving the artwork for Skid Marks.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t309/redhawk239/hesitation2_zpsa224148d.png

tony.parente

07-18-2013, 04:17 PM

Paperthin567

07-18-2013, 04:18 PM

Why are you still talking?
I enjoy it.

DigitalChaos

07-18-2013, 04:23 PM

Crucifixion Marks up in this thread.

http://i.imgur.com/4voW9iA.gif

hobochic

07-18-2013, 04:54 PM

Highly Psychological

07-18-2013, 05:42 PM

I have a feeling this new album is going to be a weird parallel to David Bowie in the 90s, i reckon it will be good but not great. Kind of like David Bowie's Outside album. Better than what had come before it but not the best. Bowie was 48 when he released Outisde too. This is only based on my immense dislike for Came Back Haunted. You never know album might be phenomenal.
Getting old does not mean you have to start getting boring though. Wire are one of my favorite bands and they are all around 60 years old. And their new album is up there with the 1970s peak stuff its amazing. Foeuts, The Fall, Primal Scream, Swans, Dead Can Dance, Killing Joke, Sonic Youth to name a few have all released mindblowing music recently and are far older than Trent, You can still produce vital art well into senile age.

DigitalChaos

07-18-2013, 05:57 PM

Nothing like the new artwork for Quotation Marks

http://blog.rafflecopter.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/quotation-marks.jpg
I'm totally getting the vinyl version:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-F6yaLasT4_Y/UI5ZLWl56tI/AAAAAAAAF4c/OGBZO4oVegQ/s1600/stock-illustration-10745700-quotation-mark-hands.jpg

The track list just got leaked!

1- Came Back "Quoted"
2- Head Like a Hyphen
3- Capital G
4- Asterisk F***ers
5- Terrible Tilde
6- The Downward Caret
7- All The Periods... All Lined Up (ellipses remix)
8- The. Mark. Has. Been. Made.

HurtinMinorKey

07-18-2013, 06:49 PM

I have a feeling this new album is going to be a weird parallel to David Bowie in the 90s, i reckon it will be good but not great.

I really hope that is better than meh. I like CBH a lot, so i kinda have my hopes up. I did think that it was odd that TR tooted his own horn by saying it was "frankly fucking great". It sounds a bit self conscious, and I don't remember him saying shit like that before.

Anyhow, for the time being i'm going to stay wildly optimistic.

The Reason Being

07-18-2013, 06:58 PM

I remember him calling Year Zero "fucking cool" before we got to hear it. And in my opinion Year Zero sounds fucking cool.

HurtinMinorKey

07-18-2013, 07:01 PM

I remember him calling Year Zero "fucking cool" before we got to hear it. And in my opinion Year Zero sounds fucking cool.

I agree. cool and underrated.

pigpen

07-18-2013, 08:23 PM

He also said that The Fragile was better than alot of stuff released around it's time.
I can't remember the exact phrasing, but he said something to that effect during part of the
backstage interview portion of the Fragility 1.0 video.

witte

07-19-2013, 02:32 AM

.....
Getting old does not mean you have to start getting boring though.....

Thank you, I'm feeling much better now.

pukkelpop

07-19-2013, 04:52 AM

dlb

07-19-2013, 04:57 AM

CBH is actually rather aggressive so they are implying the rest is more quiet? Hmm, something I can not really believe...

fillow

07-19-2013, 05:39 AM

The Fragile isn't very aggressive either (save a few songs)

slopesandsam

07-19-2013, 05:49 AM

For each previous NIN album, the art and the music always seemed like a perfect match. The cover perfectly capturing the flavour of the music inside.

I suspect this is actually because I was hearing the music and seeing the art for the first time together, so my brain was forming associations naturally.

This time around, the art for HM really doesn't seem to fit with CBH. I've come around on CBH, and quite like it, after initially feeling like it felt like an offcut from WT. But it still doesn't sit well with the artwork. I suspect this is because the art is so very reminiscent of TDS that I automatically associate it with a TDS sound.

Leo_OAK

07-19-2013, 07:28 AM

HurtinMinorKey

07-19-2013, 07:40 AM

Rock Zone (Spanish radio) tweeted me back, with a comment about the album (which they presume to have)
"it sounds good, and catchy, although not agressive at all."
`for what it's worth. but i think i could guess this too.

I thought they'd be keeping it under lock and key to prevent a leak, especially this early. No doubt people have heard it, but i bet the number of people with a copy are pretty small.

seasonsinthesky

07-19-2013, 01:41 PM

so between Spanish radio and that one Mexican website apparently hearing HM, i guess we can surmise that Columbia decided to really hone in on those NIN markets. obviously.

or people lie about this kind of thing to get some attention

Amaro

07-19-2013, 01:45 PM

Even if they do have the album, there are so many ways to describe a piece or collection of music... I think CBH happens to be perfect example of mixed descriptions for "what" it is. And rightfully so, in my opinion. I actually recall acknowledging that about it roughly from the start.

The album supposedly not being aggressive, but catchy...the possibilities for what all of that means could go on and on.

perceptionnexus

07-19-2013, 04:52 PM

I was in down south this past weekend and heard the entire album on the ol' Mexican Radio. It sounds like Broken made a burrito out of Option 30, covered it in Year Zero-ish guac and ate it with a side of the Fragile tortilla chips and washed that shit down with a TDS margarita. It then had diarhrrea and wiped its ass with The Perfect Drug after snorting a line of PHM off a mirror in the bathroom. And that's exactly how the album sounds.

In all reality though, the vibe I'm getting from the song titles and album art is an album that's going to be his most personal lyrically since TF, and I'm begrudgingly thinking the majority of it musically will be on the more mellow side, like even deeper and looking foward to joining you, finally. Kick ass, but you know, chilled.

screwdriver

07-19-2013, 04:59 PM

In all reality though, the vibe I'm getting from the song titles and album art is an album that's going to be his most personal lyrically since TF, and I'm begrudgingly thinking the majority of it musically will be on the more mellow side, like even deeper and looking foward to joining you, finally. Kick ass, but you know, chilled.

I'll make the case that With Teeth was arguably way more personal than TF; or, at least, more naked

HurtinMinorKey

07-19-2013, 10:28 PM

I'll make the case that With Teeth was arguably way more personal than TF; or, at least, more naked

It's really hard to say, WT is definitely more introspective. At the same time, The Fragile is more visceral, but I think songs like The Great Below, Fragile, and Somewhat Damaged are still pretty personal.

Prettybrokenspiral

07-19-2013, 11:52 PM

Killing Joke, Sonic Youth to name a few have all released mindblowing music recently

You thought KJ's '2012' and SY's 'The Eternal' were mind-blowing? Are you shitting me??

simonn

07-20-2013, 01:01 AM

You thought KJ's '2012' and SY's 'The Eternal' were mind-blowing? Are you shitting me??

Killing Joke's album was pretty damn good I thought!

Prettybrokenspiral

07-20-2013, 01:27 AM

It wasn't bad. But compared to the three that came before it, that shit was weak. I've listened to it probably a dozen times and the only song I can remember is the one where he screams "Raaaaaaaaptuuuuuuuuure!"

xfocalinx

07-20-2013, 11:52 AM

Welp, as if I didn't already want to buy all the versions, now is more of an indication to!

Lew

07-20-2013, 02:45 PM

I really appreciate you letting me know, bro. It was a slip-up on my part.

no prob, bob. or dare i quote the trently and say "it's all good". lol.

sheepdean

07-20-2013, 03:04 PM

Welp, as if I didn't already want to buy all the versions, now is more of an indication to!
And now you see the reason for multiple covers ;)

Max Leo

07-20-2013, 03:16 PM

Rockzone and the mexican site have just 5 tracks plus CBH, so maybe there are other tracks in the album that are more agressive or completely different to the ones that they have listened.

The mexican site said that CBH was the best track, but I guess it's just the most commercial or the closest to "traditional NIN" like Trent said. They also said that the rest sounded like a mix of the 90s stuff and the the sound from Trent's last releases like the HTDA album, they even said that one song started like a grunge song and ended like an electronic HTDA song, no idea of what this could mean, I guess that by "grunge" they mean a rock/guitar sound.

xfocalinx

07-20-2013, 03:41 PM

Right, I was planning on buying every version, anyway..but at least now my parents won't question me on "wasting my money buying something I already have"

pigpen

07-20-2013, 04:05 PM

I too will be purchasing every version..well, except for the digital version..
It's kind of a shame that the vinyl version has the artwork it does. Not because I don't like it, I'd just prefer the
standard artwork to be all huge instead.

piggy

07-20-2013, 11:37 PM

I just wanna say that I love the vinyl artwork so hard. In truth I love them all, though the standard CD is my least favorite.

thefragile_jake

07-25-2013, 10:12 AM

From the NY Times article (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/28/arts/music/nine-inch-nails-is-back-onstage-with-a-vengeance.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&pagewanted=all&adxnnlx=1374764951-pWKNrlnptHwGLLi/wW2A+g)...

“Hesitation Marks” was a year of patient effort. Mr. Reznor composed music on his laptop, using it largely as a drum machine and coming up with austere, brittle, sneakily evolving grooves. “It feels sparse, and it feels minimal,” he said. “It’s hard for me to do that. I’ve realized over the years that if I have 100 tracks, I’ll use 110 tracks. This was really about economy. It was just a weird puzzle of grooves.”

And in the context of the Nine Inch Nails catalog, where a whisper tends to lead, sooner or later, to a scream, Mr. Reznor found himself following other impulses. “It didn’t dawn on me until I was almost done with the record that I don’t really even raise my voice on this album that much,” Mr. Reznor added. “The mechanism of screaming choruses doesn’t exist here. And that wasn’t by design.”

He said: “I don’t think it’s a gentle record. I do think it’s more subversive in how it gets you. It’s not about everything being at 11 and the pyrotechnics of sound and scare tactics, which I’ve definitely used in the past. But it doesn’t feel like the middle-aged, I’ve-given-up record either.”

As the album took shape, surprising songs emerged. One, “Find My Way,” is an overt prayer. And the album’s final song with words, “While I’m Still Here,” faces up to mortality yet ends up with thoughts not of apocalypse or alienation, but of quiet connection: “Stay with me, hold me near, while I’m still here,” Mr. Reznor sings.

He thought hard about how that would fit the Nine Inch Nails canon. “To include it as the final emotional ending point of the record, that ties things together — that’s daring for me,” he said. “It would be safe if I made it uglier and noisier. It’s not safe. So I think that maybe it’s the right thing to do.”

screwdriver

07-25-2013, 10:18 AM

From the NY Times article (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/28/arts/music/nine-inch-nails-is-back-onstage-with-a-vengeance.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&pagewanted=all&adxnnlx=1374764951-pWKNrlnptHwGLLi/wW2A+g)...

I'm really intrigued by about 99% of this, but somewhat bummed about the "sparse" "minimal" description. CBH didn't feel like that at all.

Either way, it mainly jacked me up about the album quite a bit more. And I'm excited to see (via internet magic) the show tomorrow!

fillow

07-25-2013, 10:30 AM

Relax, TR has been pursuing "minimal" sound on every record since WT, in his own words.

screwdriver

07-25-2013, 10:40 AM

Relax, TR has been pursuing "minimal" sound on every record since WT, in his own words.

I know, and it was exciting for WT. It's just getting a bit... ya know.

Either way, I'm totally doing that thing that annoys me where I'm speculating on stuff I haven't even heard yet. I'll stop, just mindless message board chatter. The interview was otherwise very interesting!

ultimatebdp

07-25-2013, 10:52 AM

Now THAT was a good article! I'm even more excited about the album now!! A matured look at TDS from a different perspective!!

Btw, his youngest son's name is BALTHAZAR?!?! :eek:

Amaro

07-25-2013, 11:14 AM

I think I can see where this album is going...somewhere quite different, for one thing. Goddamn I'm excited.

Blackbookpress1984

07-25-2013, 11:22 AM

So fucking excited after reading that article. GAHHHHHHH LOLLA FRIDAYYYY..... GAAHHH HHH ok I'd done time to go back to work.

fortheloveofgod

07-25-2013, 11:30 AM

As the album took shape, surprising songs emerged. One, “Find My Way,” is an overt prayer. And the album’s final song with words, “While I’m Still Here,” faces up to mortality yet ends up with thoughts not of apocalypse or alienation, but of quiet connection: “Stay with me, hold me near, while I’m still here,” Mr. Reznor sings.

I can't wait to hear this song. Guessing it will be at the end of the set live.

MrSlfDstruct

07-25-2013, 11:51 AM

Not gonna lie … I hope he's over exaggerating the lack of screaming vocals. Not that I can't appreciate regular vocals, but I love some TR screamin'.

AlanMorlock

07-25-2013, 11:58 AM

Interesting that that article point out that "Hesitation Marks" refers to self inflicted wounds people make while contemplating suicide.

Amaro

07-25-2013, 12:11 PM

The album concept makes beautiful sense.

\\

So very glad it's almost showtime.

AlanMorlock

07-25-2013, 12:33 PM

I really appreciate this article, delving into the thought process both behind this first set of shows but also the album itself. Any worries anyone had about NIN stagnating should go out the window.

ManBurning

07-25-2013, 01:45 PM

So fucking excited after reading that article. GAHHHHHHH LOLLA FRIDAYYYY..... GAAHHH HHH ok I'd done time to go back to work.

Well, Lolla IS on a Friday... it's just not THIS coming friday... They just mixed up the Friday that was all, they probably didn't know when this article was being posted. Just a slight mixup.

HurtinMinorKey

07-25-2013, 02:59 PM

howdidislipinto

07-25-2013, 03:11 PM

(I've been told not to "take the lord's name in vein" so I'll tone my thoughts down.)

I think I had a dream last night that HM had leaked (or that it was September 3rd) and woke up with the expectation of NIN news/excitement. Groggily checking my phone, I found the NYT article, which kind of actually qualified. The descriptions of HM have thrown all my expectations. I have no idea what's coming now. And I like it. GODDAMN THIS IS SO EXCITING

(...christ, I fucked that up all to goddamn hell. Jesus cock.)

thefragile_jake

07-25-2013, 07:39 PM

Good article, terrible photo.

I want him to fess up and admit that most of the material on Hesitation Marks was supposed to be for the HTDA album, but then they realized they'd all make 10X more money if they released it under the NIN name (thanks Columbia!).

kidding.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2013/07/28/arts/28NINE1_SPAN/28NINE1-articleLarge.jpg

I actually like the photo. It's very Rolling Stone cover from the Fragile era.

gorast

07-25-2013, 07:44 PM

That photo did strike me as a weird one, mainly because it's not grayscale, Trent's not in some sort of empty area, and he's not making a face that implies "stop fucking taking my picture Rob I swear to God"

thefragile_jake

07-25-2013, 07:50 PM

I was also interested in this photo as well.
This was taken apparently during tech rehearsals.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2013/07/28/arts/28NINE2/28NINE2-popup.jpg

butter_hole

07-25-2013, 07:59 PM

TR has lost some weight! And is.... very sweaty..

gorast

07-25-2013, 08:08 PM

My God, those arms.

jesus

07-25-2013, 08:12 PM

The article was so cool!

carpenoctem

07-25-2013, 09:19 PM

Trent's fast approaching fifty and still looks great. Irrelevant, I know, I'm just fanboying. What I really came here to discuss: "austere, brittle, sneakily evolving grooves", "sparse", "minimal" etc. It's nice that he's broken radio silence. And I love the concept of looking back to what most people (beyond the diehard fans here) consider his masterpiece and thinking about how far he's come. It feels right.

W.O.R.M

07-25-2013, 09:44 PM

The show brings dizzying visual effects to an idea borrowed, Mr. Reznor freely admits, from the 1983 Talking Heads tour, filmed as “Stop Making Sense.” (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUmVH58Eng8)

Thats all I needed to hear, Next friday can not come fast enough now

Ryan

07-25-2013, 11:03 PM

Amaro

07-26-2013, 10:11 AM

*fap fap fap fap fap fap fap*

(New songs.)

DigitalChaos

07-26-2013, 10:17 AM

*fap fap fap fap fap fap fap*

(New songs.)
http://i.imgur.com/7HWFWGS.gif

Bawalo

07-26-2013, 10:18 AM

Someone should reupload this, I think I'll take it down soon. But here's Find My Way.

http://youtu.be/6tTPqtveWEg

HurtinMinorKey

07-26-2013, 10:26 AM

It's interesting that the three songs that are "out" are all in sequence on the album songs 2,3,4.

binaryhermit

07-26-2013, 10:33 AM

Someone should reupload this, I think I'll take it down soon. But here's Find My Way.

Reuploading to

http://youtu.be/h-XhLkr8RbU
EDIT:Reuploaded

Amaro

07-26-2013, 10:43 AM

The melody for Find My Way reminds me of the opening melody for Somewhat Damaged.

I couldn't agree more... Intentional or not, that's bound to stick. Song is a keeper.

skullboy0

07-26-2013, 10:55 AM

I like the arrangement, interesting to see Ilan playing keys & I'm assuming it's Josh playing percussion next to Alessandro on keys.

When they settled on this lineup I was wondering how much instrument swapping there'd be as everybody in the band can play almost any instrument.

R-Dot-Yung

07-26-2013, 10:57 AM

I fucking love Copy of A and Find My Way.

The new sanctified is also killer.

BUt loving what I've heard of hesitation marks.

masamune3570

07-26-2013, 01:56 PM

New Sanctified sounds great

masamune3570

07-26-2013, 02:13 PM

Holy shit the visuals for The Hand That Feeds are fucking cool

ryanmcfly

07-26-2013, 02:15 PM

Copy of A lyrics:

visions that were picked up on the way
invented with a purpose
a purpose has become quite clear today

look what you had to start
why all the change of heart?
well, you need to play your part
a copy of a copy of a...
now look what you've gone and done
well, that doesn't sound like fun
see, i'm not the only one
a copy of a copy of a...

i'm mister finger on trigger on finger
every little thing i'm told to do
always my intention, my intention your attention
destroying everything you told me to

look what you had to start
why all the change of heart?
well, you need to play your part
a copy of a copy of a...
now look what you've gone and done
that doesn't sound like fun
see, i'm not the only one
a copy of a copy of a...
look what you had to start
why all the change of heart?
yeah, you need to play your part
a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a...
look what you've gone and done
that doesn't sound like fun
yeah, i'm not the only one
a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a...

I think he says "pieces that were picked up on the way." and "I'm just a finger on a trigger on a finger" other than that the rest sounds good.

Leviathant

07-26-2013, 02:16 PM

i'm mister finger on trigger on finger
every little thing i'm told to do
always my intention, my intention your attention
destroying everything you told me to

I'm just a finger on a trigger on a finger
doing everything I'm told to do
always my intention, my intention your intention
just doing everything you tell me to

masamune3570

07-26-2013, 02:28 PM

The "Hurt" Visuals are great as well. Are those all older clips from the Beside You In Time "Hurt" footage? There were some I recognized from that, but others I did not.

Torgo

07-26-2013, 02:36 PM

I'm just a copy of a copy of a copy
everything I say has come before

Assembling the something and the something and the something
I don't know for certain anymore

I am just a shadow of a shadow of a shadow
always trying to catch up with myself

I am just an echo of an echo of an echo
listening to someone's cry for help

Look what you had to start
why all the change of heart
you need to play your part
a copy of a copy of a
look what you've gone and done
well that doesn't sound like fun
see I'm not the only one
a copy of a copy of a

I am little pieces, little pieces, little pieces.
pieces that were picked up on the way.

Printed with a purpose, with a purpose, with a purpose,
a purpose has become quite clear today.

Look what you had to start
why all the change of heart
you need to play your part
a copy of a copy of a
look what you've gone and done
well that doesn't sound like fun
see I'm not the only one
a copy of a copy of a

(breakdown)

I'm just a finger on a trigger on a finger
doing everything I'm told to do
always my intention, my intention your intention
just doing everything you tell me to

Look what you had to start
why all the change of heart
you need to play your part
a copy of a copy of a
look what you've gone and done
well that doesn't sound like fun
see I'm not the only one
a copy of a copy of a

Look what you had to start
why all the change of heart
you need to play your part
a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a
look what you've gone and done
well that doesn't sound like fun
see I'm not the only one
a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a

The "Hurt" Visuals are great as well. Are those all older clips from the Beside You In Time "Hurt" footage? There were some I recognized from that, but others I did not.

The Hurt visuals were some of the old Self-Destruct tour videos edited together with newer clips.