RuPaul's Drag Race

[slave2thewage]

A thread for us hennies to feel our oats and to have Latriiiiiiiiice take us to church.

I NEED SEASON 7 NOW.

[eversonpoe]

i miss Drag U so much. as fun as all the drama and ridiculousness of drag race is, Drag U actually makes me feel GOOD. i love how much they help people (and still get to be sassy with each other). plus, all the raven and jujubee you can handle. have they completely abandoned it?

is season 7 going to be another all-stars or a standard season?

[slave2thewage]

i miss Drag U so much. as fun as all the drama and ridiculousness of drag race is, Drag U actually makes me feel GOOD. i love how much they help people (and still get to be sassy with each other). plus, all the raven and jujubee you can handle. have they completely abandoned it?

It looks like it's dead in the water :(.


is season 7 going to be another all-stars or a standard season?
Standard season, filming wrapped a few weeks ago. There are, however, whisperings that All Stars 2 is in the works...

Here's an (incomplete) list of highly likely queens for season 7:

Miss Fame
Kandy Ho
Pearl
Discord Addams
Trixie Mattel
Jasmine Masters
Violet Chachki
Max Malanaphy
Ginger Minj
Tempest duJour
Katya Zamolodchikova
Jaidynn Diore

[kel]

OH MY GOD I HAD NO IDEA THIS THREAD EXISTED.

i do reception and security dispatch for a property management company after hours and once i tire of reading or candy crush, i watch season five on my kindle.

over
and
over

i need to delete it and buy season four (my other favorite) because i honestly know the whole thing, every episode, word-for-word.

and slave, i fucking LIVE for your gif's, gurl.

[slave2thewage]

i watch season five on my kindle.

over
and
over

You only watch season five?! GURLLLLLLLL

https://33.media.tumblr.com/ff9e5cd164ed72ef2f8731864906eea7/tumblr_mnd3bxVVma1s8or22o1_250.gif

and slave, i fucking LIVE for your gif's, gurl.

You say that now, but let's see how long that lasts for...

https://31.media.tumblr.com/1fd2dc537422fa499466d9f6bf75ee53/tumblr_inline_nd7fe9QVnZ1qjco0e.gif

[eversonpoe]

OH MY GOD I HAD NO IDEA THIS THREAD EXISTED.

i do reception and security dispatch for a property management company after hours and once i tire of reading or candy crush, i watch season five on my kindle.

over
and
over

i need to delete it and buy season four (my other favorite) because i honestly know the whole thing, every episode, word-for-word.

and slave, i fucking LIVE for your gif's, gurl.

don't know if you have amazon instant, but seasons 4-6 are all on there for free!

[kel]

don't know if you have amazon instant, but seasons 4-6 are all on there for free!
the wi-fi at work is shit. slow as fuck, so streaming isn't an option.

buuuut i just bought the all star season and i don't give a fuck what anyone says: mimi imfurst fucking rules.

[eversonpoe]

the wi-fi at work is shit. slow as fuck, so streaming isn't an option.

buuuut i just bought the all star season and i don't give a fuck what anyone says: mimi imfurst fucking rules.

blergh. i feel like all the chicago queens (except the princess) have been pretty awful. especially gia. WHAT GAY MANY DOESN'T KNOW WHAT A TONY IS!? and don't even get me started on not knowing what a delorean is...

[orestes]

Halfway through season two right now.

[kel]

blergh. i feel like all the chicago queens (except the princess) have been pretty awful. especially gia. WHAT GAY MANY DOESN'T KNOW WHAT A TONY IS!? and don't even get me started on not knowing what a delorean is...
i thought she was from new york. and, gawd, gia was insufferable. oy.

young, naive, straight up stupid and annoying as hell. i thought the same about leganja.

let's hope that they don't do the double premiere thing for season seven. it threw the whole thing off.

and orestes: JUJUBEE!

[eversonpoe]

Halfway through season two right now.


and @orestes (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=4) : JUJUBEE!

raven & jujubee are the best, ever. season two is probably still my favorite.

favore snatch game queens/impersonations?

sharon needles as michelle visage
jinkx monsoon as little edie
joslyn fox as teresa giudice
raja as tyra banks
willam as jessica simpson
alaska as lady bunny
be de la creme as maggie smith
adore delano as anna nicole smith

[orestes]

Mimi Imfurst, what the fuck?!

[kel]

Mimi Imfurst, what the fuck?!
she was desperate to make an impression. india sucks way more than mimi ever did, imho.

also her lipsync with chad in the first all-stars episode to "opposites attract" was great. i love love love chad, but i thought mimi took that one.

[orestes]

Almost finished with season three and I loooooooove​ Raja and Manila.

[kel]

Almost finished with season three and I loooooooove​ Raja and Manila.
raja's voice irks me. manilla *is* amazing, but the whole heathers thing with delta and carmen was fucking lame.

look up their "lady marmalade" video on youtube.

barf.

[orestes]

I just like his confidence as a drag queen. The bit in episode 7(?) when they had a nude photo shoot- Raja's interview segment had me laughing and rewatching it over and over.

[slave2thewage]

Prepare yourself for the magnificence that is season four.

Also, if we still had thread subtitles, ours would be "FUCKING TYRA".

[kel]

slave is right -- season four is where the show hits its stride.

sharon and chad. 'nuff said.

[orestes]

Living for Detox's outfit in the reunion episode.

[slave2thewage]

Aww, now I'm thinking back to when season five was about to start and Detox was the fan favourite to win :(.

Season 7 cast should be announced at some point in the next few weeks.

[andre78]

I love RPDR! Possibly the best reality show in tv since, I dunno, Real World Miami. Can't thank enough for a show that introduce me to freakingly funny people like Bianca Del Rio, Sharon Needles, Alaska and Jujubee. Plus, Ru Paul's persona is so smart and kind and mean and witty that I feel such a deep fondness to him.

One thing that I wonder is if the show's format will remain the same for the next season ( the very same since the first season, infact ). At the same time, I don't really know if they should change what's a winning concept...

[kel]

Living for Detox's outfit in the reunion episode.
"why it gotta be grey?"

she looked amazing. best look of the night.

[orestes]

There's something that's been bugging me about season six. I know it's a reality show and it's edited to form a narrative but it seems like some circumstances were edited to make contestants look bad. Take Trinity K. Bonet, for example, who was often shown in the preliminary stages of a week's challenge floundering and yet, somehow, was able to pull it off more times than none. Another example was the Snatch Game episode, in which Ben de la Creme did a really bad imitation of Alyssa Edwards and yet won the challenge for his portrayal of Maggie Smith.

[kel]

ru and i share the same birthday :)

happy birthday, mama!

[orestes]

Laganja's breakdown in her last Untucked episode, holy crap.

[slave2thewage]

Laganja's breakdown in her last Untucked episode, holy crap.

The true cultural epoch of 2014, to be honest.

It's just been confirmed - lineup for season seven to be revealed on Logo on December 7.

[slave2thewage]

http://i.imgur.com/MMsLXWo.jpg
Lineup in full is available in 12 hours, will update this post when it's out.

[kel]

no surprise with miss fame.

loving the marathon right now.

edit: adore and trinity's lipsync to "vibeology" -- fucking HOT.

[slave2thewage]

Jasmine Masters just Ruvealed on Facebook.

Someone is serving up filler queen realness.

[kel]

the new honey mahogany.

[slave2thewage]

the new honey mahogany.

I was thinking more "lovechild of Dida and Coco", but yours works as well. #returnofthekaftan

[slave2thewage]

Ginger Minj
Jaidynn Diore
Jasmine Masters
Kandy Ho
Kasha Davis
Katya
Kennedy Davenport
Max Malanaphy
Miss Fame
Pearl
Sasha Belle
Tempest DuJour
Trixie Mattel
Violet Chachki

[Charmingly Miserable]

RPDR is probably the sole reason I wish I had a tv. :(

[eversonpoe]

RPDR is probably the sole reason I wish I had a tv. :(

the episodes usually go up the next day on the logotv website!

[slave2thewage]

the episodes usually go up the next day on the logotv website!

Hell, the website links have sometimes appeared online before the Logo broadcast! Yay for the internet hennies and their sleuthing.

[slave2thewage]

Can we just give her the fucking crown already?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnaPE0WtvpI

[kel]

ginger minj seems fun.

[slave2thewage]

Got VIP tickets to my first drag show in March: Shangela, Alyssa and Laganja. Time to work on the death drops!

[kel]

okay, so ... when does season 7 premiere? wtf, it's usually the last thursday in january (right?).

i'm about to have a panic attack.

[eversonpoe]

okay, so ... when does season 7 premiere? wtf, it's usually the last thursday in january (right?).

i'm about to have a panic attack.

in six days!

[kel]

in six days!
but but but ...

it's not! it's premiering "spring 2015."

i'm gonna barf ...

[eversonpoe]

but but but ...

it's not! it's premiering "spring 2015."

i'm gonna barf ...

DAMNIT! they changed it :(

[slave2thewage]

Expect an announcement tomorrow, apparently.

Going to see BenDeLaCreme in April and Alaska three weeks later, squee!

[kel]

march 2nd. UGH.

looks like santino has been replaced by carson kressley and ross mathews. he's only a guest judge this season.

totally okay with that.

[slave2thewage]

That list of guest judges is crazy. Ru must have won big at the bingo.

[orestes]

http://m.newnownext.com/rupauls-drag-race-season-7-premiere-date-announced/01/2015/?xrs=synd_tumblr_logo

[kel]

whoa. yara sofia is doing some kind of multimedia show at the visual arts collective in garden city in march.

she's eye candy. i'm there.

[kel]

omg less than three hours omg

[kel]

sooooo ...

i was glad they ditched the dual openings, but something about this premiere felt rushed and with a lot less fanfare than usual. only a couple of queens are memorable so far, being ginger, katya, trixie, and miss fame. as far as the elimination, i was disappointed but not surprised (i don't know how to add a spoiler button using tapatalk, so i'll stop there).

fuck kandy ho.

[eversonpoe]

are any of the three preceding specials worth watching?

[kel]

are any of the three preceding specials worth watching?
you mean that cucumber and banana bullshit that logo tricked my dvr into recording, making it look like the season premiere was two-and-a-half hours long?

no.

EDIT: i forgot to add max to the list on that other post. her polio realness was errrythang!

[orestes]

Favorites so far:
Pearl
Miss Fame
Katya
Max (reminds me a bit of Milk)
Violet Chachki

[kel]

i'm gonna go out on a lofty limb and say this will be the season for a big girl. jaidyn (sp?) has a huge personality (not in a shitty way, like leganja) and isn't bad (i'm not gagging, though), but ginger has got it.

i think. she's cute, confident, polished, funny. this might be her year.

fuck kandy ho. did i say that already?

[orestes]

I can't look at Kandy's contouring without seeing a beard.

[eversonpoe]

love: max, ginger, katya, & tempest

hate: violet, kandy ho

have weird feelings about: jasmine, trixie

the new judges are fun. i like that alaska was on the side during the fashion show just to be sassy. wish mathu had said anything.

[kel]

pearl's first workroom look was interesting enough to catch my attention, but that perm bitch face is insanely off-putting. in her interview segments, she totally straddles that cunt/smart snark line.

her last look sucked (horrible hair), bitch face and all.

[kel]

excited for tonight's episode. i want to like these girls way more than i do right now.

i'm also anxious to rid myself of the resentment from last week's elimination.

when can i bring up specific names without being a spoiler?

[orestes]

Already seen tonight's episode. :p

[kel]

Already seen tonight's episode. [emoji14]
is it already online somewhere?

[orestes]

Yep, leaked last Thursday.

[kel]

i'm not very good at interneting. bah, it's on in five minutes, anyway.

[kel]

goddamn it ... after all that I REALLY FUCKING WANTED MISS FAME TO LYPSYNC!

also, they were unfair to katya. and the queen who sashayed? meh, bye.

edit: orestes (and all mods), i'm sorry for all these double posts. i realize i'm talking primarily to myself.

i'll just edit my posts when i get impulsive afterthoughts. starting with bitching about the two shitty songs used for the lipsyncs so far. honestly, the music in tonight's main challenge was better than that "geronimo" song.

edit: christ, last night's episode was painful.

edit: jasmine has the biggest mouth i've ever seen.

edit: tonight's elimination was WACK (the ONLY queen i've thought was cute enough out if drag to mess around with. plus, she was *talented enough* for us to look forward to her snatch game performance [i, personally, was hoping for either tammy faye or bianca del rio from her.]). and to everyone hating on this season, at least there's a clear villain and stupid cliques.

i missed that last season. it's a major stretch to say that either happened in season six.

[orestes]

Pearl should have gone home.

[frankie teardrop]

no. but why kandy ho is still around is a total mystery to me.

[orestes]

Anyone else been watching Untucked on youtube this season? Ginger is so shady.

[kel]

agreed!

kandy's shading still looks beardsy to me. also she turned me off so badly in the first episode that there's no going back.

and violet wtf?

[eversonpoe]

so glad kandy finally went home. ugh!

almost everyone's looks were AMAZING...except kennedy. wtf? she looked like an extra crispy rooster or something.

i thought it was cute how bashful max was getting with all the sex talk. i think that people forget that, just because someone is a drag queen doesn't mean she HAS to be super outspoken when it comes to sexuality. but i also love sluttly little katya <3

oh, do we think miss fame is EVER going to get the joke?

https://img1.etsystatic.com/059/1/6326246/il_570xN.754217101_fmkf.jpg
link (https://www.etsy.com/listing/229129691/miss-fame-how-is-your-head?ref=shop_home_active_10)

[kel]

she'll be back next week, right? Right?! RIGHT??!

but seriously, the hashtag twitblr thing means nothing (and maybe they even say that somewhere). filming ended last year, kids.

she best be back next week.

[orestes]

This week's lip sync challenge! *dies laughing*

[eversonpoe]

the whole episode was great. i like that they're doing a few things this season that they've actually never done before, and it's fun. also, SO PROUD of miss fame for finally getting the joke ;)

definitely think the right queen(s) won this week, too.

[orestes]

Lol Miss Fame.

[orestes]

LIVING for Violet's lip sync.

[kel]

LIVING for Violet's lip sync.

her single "bettie" is surprisingly good. great video, too. best rpdr track since adore's first single.

this season came in like a lamb and out like a lion. full of surprises, perfectly bizarre challenges.

also katya.

[eversonpoe]

i don't think i'll ever get over katya's babraham lincoln look. i mean, that is a literal sexual fantasty i've had, and katya is SO GORGEOUS, and...i'll be in my bunk...

[kel]

season eight ruveal set for february 1st.

[ldopa]

i moved and can't afford fancy cable anymore, is there a way i can watch it online without having to download? or netflix maybe?

i can watch it on logo TV's site, but have to wait and not watch it in real time...or hulu, which is not an option.

[orestes]

Nope, you can only stream off logo's website

[ldopa]

such is life!
*struggles with cane* so violet won last season...

[kel]

such is life!
*struggles with cane* so violet won last season...

yep! initially thought she was an insufferable brat, but she won me over mid-season. a well deserved win.

[ldopa]

was she the one that did that "blink and you miss it" wardrobe change as she was strutting down the runway? it was early in the season if i remember right...no two ways about it, that was badass.

[kel]

the plaid flip it and reverse it? yes. er, yaaaasss.

it was her john willie references and unbreakable confidence that sealed the deal.

look up her first single "bettie" on youtube. EVERY queen thinks they're worthy of a single, a music career after the show, but that bitch seriously delivers.

[eversonpoe]

the plaid flip it and reverse it? yes. er, yaaaasss.

it was her john willie references and unbreakable confidence that sealed the deal.

look up her first single "bettie" on youtube. EVERY queen thinks they're worthy of a single, a music career after the show, but that bitch seriously delivers.

i actually hated her "song" and the video made me super uncomfortable. but it wasn't as bad as pearl's, um...song?
ginger's song, on the other hand, was FANTASTIC because she can actually SING! plus she's hilarious.

[kel]

how so? super curious. it's catchy and edgy and includes lots of body types, which is important.

ginger lost my vote towards the end.

and i liked pearl until she marketed a perfume for over a hundred bucks.

[ldopa]

look up her first single "bettie" on youtube. EVERY queen thinks they're worthy of a single, a music career after the show, but that bitch seriously delivers.

i dug it. i actually love the "dark side" 50's housewife thing she had going. gay or straight, that song speaks the truth :D

[eversonpoe]

how so? super curious. it's catchy and edgy and includes lots of body types, which is important.

sexualization of underage-looking boys in tightie-whities is like a giant ball of turn-off for me. i just felt very uncomfortable with how heavily that aspect of the video was featured and couldn't have fun with it. there were aspects of it i enjoyed (all of violet's looks were great), but that was definitely not one of them. and the song was like really bad "industrial". i like my drag queen songs fun & danceable.

[kel]

i get it. i just saw twinks (gross).

have you seen the wretched so-called "heathers" video for their "lady marmalade" cover? lord, what a pile of garbage.

[orestes]

Season 8 queens revealed. (http://www.ew.com/article/2016/02/01/rupauls-drag-race-season-8-queens-premiere-date)

[orestes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aLxP1Gqqbo

[kel]

immediate stand-outs: cynthia lee fontaine (she gave me tammie brown vibes), acid betty (best aesthetics so far, but she's a dead ringer for pepper from american horror story out of drag), and kim chi (but that walk ... yikes).

i liked the episode. not gagging yet, though.

edit: i forgot derrick barry. as a huge britney fan, she's a blast to watch.

[orestes]

I need Kim Chi's wigs.

[eversonpoe]

I need Kim Chi's wigs.

i want to HANG OUT with kim chi. oh my god. what a beautiful dork. "donut come for me" hahahahaha

[icklekitty]

Kim Chi is adorable, but by and large I skipped through most of this episode. I think I'm only in it for the dresses :D

[orestes]

i want to HANG OUT with kim chi. oh my god. what a beautiful dork. "donut come for me" hahahahaha

Are you familiar with this show?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRXtd1-eiTo

[orestes]

Well, that was an interesting elimination.

[slave2thewage]

Kim is obviously going to be our first Asian queen to win.

I will never forgive Ru for not crowning Katya in season seven, but arguably Katya is a bigger success than the top three in the season, so...

[eversonpoe]

Well, that was an interesting elimination.

oof, yeah. i was not expecting that (though i was, the whole time during the lip sync, going "i really don't know who is doing better")

i <3 kim chi so much. and OH MY GOD that dress was GORGEOUS.

also, thorgy thor may LOOK like that annoying lesbian art teacher who wants to hang out with all the students and be "cool," but she genuinely seems to always be having fun when she's in drag, and i love that.

[orestes]

So I wonder who's coming back?

Thorgy Thor is starting to grow on me but I worry that his need to wear big hair to cover his dreads may be a determent.

[eversonpoe]

So I wonder who's coming back?

haha i hope it's shangela. it's been too long since they've made that joke and it gets funnier every time.

[slave2thewage]

Naysha is the returning queen, the news leaked a few hours ago.

While I'm giving out spoilers, have your All-Stars 2 lineup: Tatianna, Phi Phi, Alaska, Alyssa, Coco, Detox, Roxxy, Adore, Katya, Ginger.

[orestes]

Well, that's anticlimactic.

[kel]

that's fucking lame.

edit: roxxxy is gonna show her face again?

[eversonpoe]

thorgy thor & bob the drag queen were both fucking HILARIOUS. glad thor & kim chi switched characters because it definitely worked in both of their favors.

i think the right queen went home at the end of the episode.

can't believe they brought back who they brought back (definitely missed an opportunity to bring back shangela again) but whatever :: shrug ::

[orestes]

Living for Bob's Cookie!

Untucked episode: Betty is such a bitch.

[eversonpoe]

we haven't been watching untucked. we didn't last season, either. i just don't like all the extra drama and cruelty. it's not as fun as it used to be.

here's a great interview with Ru (http://www.vulture.com/2016/03/rupaul-drag-race-interview.html#)

[kel]

i really liked last night's episode. a couple bad attitudes made me start to side with and finally start to *care* about a few girls. since i don't know how to safely post spoilers, i'll leave it at that.

lucian looks good with salt and pepper hair (but i wasn't digging his direction).

[orestes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L00sx82Nw8

[orestes]

Derrick needs to go!

So excited for Snatch Game next week.

[eversonpoe]

Derrick needs to go!

So excited for Snatch Game next week.

derrick should have gone home a while ago. i called it in the first episode: no personality, can't do anything but britney.

bob is my favorite. slightly annoying but in a charming way (and super cute).

also, really glad both robbie & kim chi stepped outside their shells a bit and had what looked like a ton of fun.

oh, and BEST GUEST JUDGES EVER.

[halo eighteen]

God I haven't watched this show in years, and am sooo behind. Pandora Boxx and Sharon Needles are my faves!

[orestes]

derrick should have gone home a while ago. i called it in the first episode: no personality, can't do anything but britney.

bob is my favorite. slightly annoying but in a charming way (and super cute).

also, really glad both robbie & kim chi stepped outside their shells a bit and had what looked like a ton of fun.

oh, and BEST GUEST JUDGES EVER.

I want to live in Robbie's runway dress.

[kel]

it's already time for the snatch game? and i like derrick. wouldn't it be awesome if she threw a curve ball and did anyone other than "she who shall not be named" next week? probably won't happen (and is probably already confirmed), but still. tati already killed it in season two.

[orestes]

It's a bit earlier than normal due to double elimination.

[kel]

God I haven't watched this show in years, and am sooo behind. Pandora Boxx and Sharon Needles are my faves!

if i were you i'd gorge on every season you've missed (sounds like five and up).

makes me a little jealous, actually, as i've seen every episode probably three times. amazon prime is your best bet.

[halo eighteen]

if i were you i'd gorge on every season you've missed (sounds like five and up).

makes me a little jealous, actually, as i've seen every episode probably three times. amazon prime is your best bet.

Awesome, I do have a Roku with Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon Prime so hopefully I'll be covered! Yeah 5 sounds about right, I remember Alaska from 4 but not as a constestant. I'm sooo ready to binge out on this show again with a cocktail in hand. If there's ever a Heather Damage on the show, I used to date him a long time ago lol.

[eversonpoe]

"she who shall not be named"

what's funny is that, when michelle said that, in the context of the challenge, i thought she was referring to madonna.

[orestes]

Cornfed:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OfAqhN14GQ

[kel]

oy. foreshadowing says derrick will be gone next week.

[kel]

excited for tonight's episode (and FINALLY a madonna-themed runway). logo's been showing every snatch game building up to it. i forgot how awesome the season two lipsync was. i never cared for morgan mcmichaels, but she slayed "two of hearts" and basically stood in the same spot.

[kel]

holy balls. that was a seriously shocking elimination. also i really love the song they dance out to. best season single so far.

but whoa.

[orestes]

Haven't watched the episode yet but doesn't sound like Derrick's boring ass went home.

[kel]

you're going to love bob's performance.

i'm almost as excited for the show as i am for those nasty pig underwear commercials.

*fans self off*

[orestes]

Four kimonos wtf

[kel]

edit ......

[eversonpoe]

right? of all of madge's looks, they choose "nothing really matters"? it wasn't even a hit.

hey, at least Kim Chi did a DIFFERENT video (that still had a kimono) look haha

seriously glad about who got eliminated. her shtick was getting old, and her snatch game was just...not funny at all (when it could have been AMAZING). i think chi chi should have been in the top and derrick should have just been safe, because that eartha kitt AS catwoman was HILARIOUS and her cone-bra madonna was fantastic but i'm fine with everything else. and i'm really glad about who won, she's been pretty consistently my favorite.

also, robbie turner's runway look was THE CUTEST!

[orestes]

right? of all of madge's looks, they choose "nothing really matters"? it wasn't even a hit.


Derrick's kimono was so fug. Definitely not Gaulthier worthy! If I were Thorgy, I would have gone with Madonna's Frozen look. It would have hid her bump better.

[orestes]

Raja and Raven are having none of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZOJwIXs3-w

[kel]

another shocking elimination. half of that bottom two didn't belong there. based solely on the lipsync, though, it was fair (you're gonna be pissed, orestes).

what a kick ass challenge. the winner (who i'd practically forgotten was on the show) seriously turned it out.

[orestes]

Lol, Derrick actually thought he did good in the untucked episode. Everyone was giving her side-eye.

[kel]

damn damn damn damn damn damn damn.

once again the lipsync saved a weakling. i've gotta hand it to her, though -- it was clear from the first notes of the song who was going to prevail.

best line of the night: "you look like a dead boy george."

[orestes]

Don't hate on Chi Chi.

Next week's episode is 90 minutes!

[kel]

girl turned it, no doubt. but i'm gonna miss the departed queen. :(

kim's response to the judges on the runway broke my heart.

[eversonpoe]

glad bob & derrick managed to work together to win. they both did really well with the campaign ads, though derrick's runway look was kinda hog-body, whereas bob's was great.

i'm gonna miss thorgy, too, but she was starting to get boring/mean, whereas she started out fantastic.

i <3 kim chi so much. more every week. i just want to hang out and, like...idunno, i just really want to be friends with kim chi.

[kel]

derrick's brows. i can't even.

there's no clear top three. i like all four for very different reasons. i'm worried about kim performing (read: inevitably having to dance, like *really* dance), though.

[orestes]

Fucking finally.

[eversonpoe]

Fucking finally.

sarah and i enthusiastically high-fived each other as soon as that happened. oh man.

and i agree with c0f3d there's really no clear top three. i really like all four of them a lot, but i've been rooting for bob since day one (and kim chi, but i don't know if she's gonna win). also, i love that all of the top four ladies are beautiful women of color.

[orestes]

Lol, two of my friends are playfully going at each other in FB group messenger. One of them is a huge Naomi stan and thought she should have won the challenge.

[orestes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPLi4NSFTDs

[kel]

edit .....

[eversonpoe]

dude, that was rough. and kim got off easy -- dancing with just your hands isn't dancing.

i think bob's got this in the bag.

i'm very happy about the top 3.

i think kim chi did a fine job. you work to your strengths, you know? if you can be stunning and captivating without moving your legs, more power to you. i also think ross was right about kim being able to bring drag into a new direction, which would be really cool.

that said, i've been #teambob since day one because i like that bob isn't always about looking 100% perfect, but entertaining and, as she said herself, improving the community. also, i think bob is super hot, in and out of drag.

[kel]

kim's "i'm not trying to catch anything" pit crew burn was the best part of the finale.

season eight ruvealed starts next month. and they're finally showing promos for all stars two.

[kel]

can we talk all-stars 2?

roxxxy looks AMAZING.

holy fuck, i had no idea how much i missed tati.

katya, thank you for still being here.

phi phi, you're one of the only reasons i miss being on facebook. i relish our chats and i'm rooting for you.

here we go!

[eversonpoe]

can we talk all-stars 2?

roxxxy looks AMAZING.

holy fuck, i had no idea how much i missed tati.

katya, thank you for still being here.

phi phi, you're one of the only reasons i miss being on facebook. i relish our chats and i'm rooting for you.

here we go!

i still don't love phi phi but damn do i find her attractive (in and out of drag).

katya is like my #1 of all time, though. seriously.

glad roxxxy is better this time around and not being a stone cold B.

poor adore. i love you, boo!

[eversonpoe]

that was an interesting episode. i'm mad they shafted katya with princess diana, but she definitely nailed that lipsync better than anyone else. and can you really blame her for not having a 10ft train on her gown? how the fuck is she supposed to DANCE with one???

[orestes]

Ginger's runway look was a hot fucking mess.

[eversonpoe]

Ginger's runway look was a hot fucking mess.

agreed. but her lipsync & performance was pretty good.

[orestes]

I was rolling watching Katya and Detox's Thelma and Louise's parody.

[slave2thewage]

All the Twitter drama going on right now (Coco vs Roxxxy, Phi Phi vs EVERYONE) is giving me LOIFEEEEE.

[eversonpoe]

i don't understand for the life of me how phi phi was in the top with that atrocious runway look. that wig is one of the worst things i've ever seen on that stage.

alaska's look as li'l poundcake, on the other hand, is literally the best thing i've ever seen on the runway. i LOST IT. my brain has just been repeating "li'l poundcake is a straight up motherfuckin' dick pig" for the last couple days hahaha.

[orestes]

This week's elimination was bullshit!

[eversonpoe]

This week's elimination was bullshit!

agreed. i'm mad at alaska for that decision because she was clearly playing favorites. as nice as it has been to have roxxxy being fun and sweet this season (and with some killer looks), she deserved to go home after this week's episode.

and tati, with her t-boz look, was EVERYTHING. i don't even understand why she was in the bottom!!! detox should have been in the bottom for that boring look and her unsuccessful commercial (the funniest part of which was the fact that the pit crew guy had been laying on the ground the whole time, holding up the garbage can).

:mad:

[slave2thewage]

The bullshit continues.

Katya is DOMINATING the fan vote right now. It's also pretty interesting that they decided to give Alaska a villain edit at this point in the series.

[slave2thewage]

Season 9 queens are out. I'm not blown away. Charlie Hides, Jaymes Mansfield and Nina Brown are my favourites so far, and keeping an eye on Farrah Moan and Shea Couleé.

Also, just got a meet and greet package for Trixie in Dublin in May. Dunno whether to cry or sing Kim Chi The Asian Drag Queen when I meet her.

[orestes]

Watch before it gets pulled.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGpHTbUJ3mQ&t=29s&spfreload=10

[slave2thewage]

Right, here's some unconfirmed spoilers floating around. There's lots of them and contradictions are everywhere, so I'm just going with reporting the ones that are apparently the most accurate.

Cynthia Lee Fontaine is the secret returning queen, will last to at least Snatch Game.
Two early favourites will leave the competition.
Lady Gaga enters the show in disguise as a fake queen in the workroom.
Jaymes Mansfield lasts until at least episode 6. Potential Miss Congeniality.
Farrah Moan is the villain of the season.
Two of the top 3: Shea and Sasha.
Nina is a high-ranking queen.
Charlie Hides has an injury and has to leave the competition.
Gaga isn't the only big name judge this season.

[kel]

premieres friday, the 24th ON VH1! this is awesome news as i was looking into upgrading my cable package specifically for drag race. it was expensive and i'm so glad i don't have to anymore.

that said, i hope logo can survive this. ru is their livelihood. also, friday nights, tho?

[kel]

this season's song is legit.

[kel]

holy shit.

Holy Shit.

HOLY SHIT.

(we got emotional watching eureka's talk with gaga).

yes. not disappointed.

[eversonpoe]

my main musical collaborator and i just released a song that's kind of a tribute to detox (just in time for tonight's new episode of drag race). check it out! (https://lyrachicago.bandcamp.com/track/detox)

[kel]

tonight's show, after that premiere ... meh.

eureka is still my favorite (think he's cute af out of drag), trinity and kimora are still my least faves.

bummed about the elimination. i think she let her intimidations get in the way. i really liked her.

trinity has a bad energy (reminds me of venus, who's a terrible, attention obsessed jerk). yuck.

[slave2thewage]

Ugh, this elimination made me so sad. I think she may do well post-show.

[eversonpoe]

yeah, this episode was a big yawn compared to the previous one, and the b-52's weren't nearly as fun as i felt like they should have been. also, that was THE MOST BORING LIP SYNC EVER to one of the most fun songs ever...how does that happen?

[kel]

also, that was THE MOST BORING LIP SYNC EVER to one of the most fun songs ever...how does that happen?
it really was. they were both lackluster, thought it might be a double elimination.

no mini challenge, a dull maxi challenge ... just a dud.

in other rpdr news, gia gunn has come out as trans. also, i had no idea that peppermint is a trans woman, the first to enter the competition identifying.

[eversonpoe]

it really was. they were both lackluster, thought it might be a double elimination.

no mini challenge, a dull maxi challenge ... just a dud.

in other rpdr news, gia gunn has come out as trans. also, i had no idea that peppermint is a trans woman, the first to enter the competition identifying.

i knew i loved peppermint! :D

wish i could say that makes me like gia more but...i don't think i can ever get over "what's a delorean?" and "what's a tony?"

[kel]

i knew i loved peppermint! :D

wish i could say that makes me like gia more but...i don't think i can ever get over "what's a delorean?" and "what's a tony?"

oh, i found gia insufferable on her season. aside from being painfully dim, she just wasn't very nice.

and i should clarify my above comment: peppermint is the first contestant to *openly* identify as trans coming into the workroom.

[kel]

"what's an adjective?". bye, girl, bye.

valentina is so endearing. and i take back my trinity/venus comparison.

the talk about orlando in the workroom really got to me.

[kel]

what the fuck was that?! she didn't have to match her choreography, she could have done funny.

she laid her head on the tracks from the get-go.

disappointed.

[kel]

snatch game tonight.

[kel]

this season is so underwhelming.

[eversonpoe]

this season is so underwhelming.

while i generally agree, the queens that did well in the roast did REALLY well. and i'm very happy with who won, and with who went home.

[kel]

really bummed about how last night's lip sync went down.

[slave2thewage]

I would have appreciated last night more if I didn't know exactly what was going to happen because of a leak.

[eversonpoe]

really bummed about how last night's lip sync went down.


I would have appreciated last night more if I didn't know exactly what was going to happen because of a leak.

while i had been told that it was the MOST CONTROVERSIAL THING that ever happened on drag race (um...no) so it was REALLY built up, it definitely ended up being the DUMBEST thing i've seen someone do on the show. oy veh, amirite?

[kel]

season of disappointment so far. she was the one i felt most invested in, and it's a stretch to say that this year.
slave2thewage, can you just not help yourself?

[slave2thewage]

season of disappointment so far. she was the one i felt most invested in, and it's a stretch to say that this year.
@slave2thewage (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=89), can you just not help yourself?
I didn't believe it at first - Ru yelling at a fan favourite and stopping a lip-sync? The initial leak about a month ago had a few different details, namely in addition to not knowing the words, Valentina would have zero makeup on apart from her eyes, but it was there.

Her fans need a fucking chill pill, as well.

[kel]

every single one of those crew members are attractive. how cute were they in this? nina's partner reminded me of that clown from house of 1000 corpses once painted. sarge, dude ... so adorbs.

no complaints this elimination.

[slave2thewage]

Finally.

[kel]

the foreshadowing at the beginning of the show is ruining it for me. literally one minute in, i said "yep, she's going home tonight." and she did.

that was the worst lip sync song ever. ughhhh ...

[kel]

i told my boyfriend at the beginning of the show, "there better not be a top four ... "

whelp.

i don't care much who wins. they're all *okay*. my money is on shea, even though i've HATED her seemingly permanent white underliner in the corner of her eyes. i mean, seriously? nobody clocked that shit?

god. season ten, come through. let's forget this mediocre run. and the first on a major network? not a great introduction to the masses.

[slave2thewage]

The unmasking of Villaintina was the best part of the season. Shame that a large part of her fanbase are awful 17 year old twinks who think that she can do no wrong.

[kel]

i'm shook. not what i predicted by a long shot. okay with the winner, but ready for season 10 already.

[slave2thewage]

In case you have been living under a rock, All Stars 3 starts filming this week.

Tracy Martell better take her crown.

[DoughnutNipsMoore]

I was at a Drag Race "Herstory" pub quiz on Thursday and honestly WTF. There was no Herstory - it was whatever was on Netflix. Not one single question about season one, about untucked or the judges, or any off camera shade. It was so disappointing! And the winning team just sat there on their phones googling the whole time. I love pub quizzes and Drag Race so dream night with mates but not even worth the time, I should had a viewing party with gin at mine.

Sorry rant over.

[eversonpoe]

I was at a Drag Race "Herstory" pub quiz on Thursday and honestly WTF. There was no Herstory - it was whatever was on Netflix. Not one single question about season one, about untucked or the judges, or any off camera shade. It was so disappointing! And the winning team just sat there on their phones googling the whole time. I love pub quizzes and Drag Race so dream night with mates but not even worth the time, I should had a viewing party with gin at mine.

Sorry rant over.

how are people allowed to use their phones!?

[DoughnutNipsMoore]

how are people allowed to use their phones!?

I know right!!!!!!! A pub quiz isn't an IQ test or exam, it's a laugh but people need to play along man.

[slave2thewage]

I know right!!!!!!! A pub quiz isn't an IQ test or exam, it's a laugh but people need to play along man.

Using phones in a pub quiz? OH HONEY.

[slave2thewage]

ALLEGED list of queens for All Stars 3.

Trixie
Shangela
BenDeLaCreme
Morgan McMichaels
Darienne Lake
Kennedy Davenport
Milk
Aja
ChiChi
Thorgy

[slave2thewage]

List confirmed - there was an audience for a talent show challenge (yet another) that was filmed last night and someone broke their NDA lol.

[kel]

no darienne lake.

[eversonpoe]

ugh, why on earth is Aja in the allstars lineup? her personality is fine i guess, but her looks are shit.

[playwithfire]

Willam for 10th queen plz

[kel]

ugh, why on earth is Aja in the allstars lineup? her personality is fine i guess, but her looks are shit.

agreed. the whole cast is kind of meh. following up all stars 2 is gonna be ... impossible, really.

[eversonpoe]

Willam for 10th queen plz

noooooooope. fuck willam forever.

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/09/28/rupauls-drag-race-star-willam-belli-shocks-fans-with-transphobic-comments/

[kel]

noooooooope. fuck willam forever.

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/09/28/rupauls-drag-race-star-willam-belli-shocks-fans-with-transphobic-comments/

wow. so disappointing.

[eversonpoe]

wow. so disappointing.

yeah, good thing this isn't the manson thread or we'd have people defending him :rolleyes:

[slave2thewage]

Tenth queen is Bebe.

[eversonpoe]

Tenth queen is Bebe.

...but why? i mean, don't get me wrong, she's great, but she won her season, so why is she being brought back?

[kel]

what?! ugh, why?! that's not fair.

[playwithfire]

yeah, good thing this isn't the manson thread or we'd have people defending him :rolleyes:

Jeeesus this is so much worse than I even expected it to be.

[kel]

jiggly, stacy layne matthews, kenya michaels, and sonique have all come out as trans.

also, jade jolie did porn. excuse me while i barf for the next 24 hours.

[kel]

so this season has had some surprises.

*wow, bendela is owning this and, despite what the calculated queens think, is totally worthy of a win.

*aja has grown so much since her season. she slays in the lip syncs.

*shangela is doing great, but has an experienced eye in how each queen is playing the game and won't hesitate to manipulate results.

*thank GOD snatch game wasn't omitted. really stoked to see bebe and trixie's gig.

*milk needs to be shoved off a marc jacobs runway as a reality check. damn, she thinks she's the ish.

[eversonpoe]

so this season has had some surprises.

*wow, bendela is owning this and, despite what the calculated queens think, is totally worthy of a win.

*aja has grown so much since her season. she slays in the lip syncs.

*shangela is doing great, but has an experienced eye in how each queen is playing the game and won't hesitate to manipulate results.

*thank GOD snatch game wasn't omitted. really stoked to see bebe and trixie's gig.

*milk needs to be shoved off a marc jacobs runway as a reality check. damn, she thinks she's the ish.

agreed on all fronts. also, i want trixie to win a fucking challenge for fuck's sake. i don't know how the previous week she wasn't in the top with her dolly, and how milk wasn't in the bottom with her celine.

[playwithfire]

So glad Milk went home!

[eversonpoe]

So glad Milk when home!

seriously. what a turd.

"i'm the best and no one pays enough attention to me" :: does a mediocre job at almost everything :: "this is bullshit!"

[kel]

what a lackluster snatch game. sigh.

bendela stole the whole thing. christ, she was PERFECTION. shangela made me giggle a little, even though i'm unfamiliar with her character choice. and i didn't think trixie's ru was that bad. a +1 for bebe's grace jones on looks alone.

it was announced today (maybe yesterday?) that season 10 will air at the end of march. excited for the cast announcement and SO STOKED to get a new season this soon.

[Dr.Z]

I have the feeling that Bebe has some kind of permanent bonus... I mean, her Diana Ross impression is great, but she always stayed within her comfort zone and never got any criticism for it. Others would have been judged way more harshly in a similar position

[kel]

there are rumors that bebe is a mole, giving judges insight on the competition. and ben is allegedly going to eliminate herself. hopefully *something* happens soon because this season is dry af.

[kel]

GODFUCKINGDAMNIT! NOOOO!

well, shit ... i suppose it was high time for a shake up, but i was seriously shook despite the rumors that have been floating around for months.

i guess my money is on shangela now.

[playwithfire]

MY QUEEN

caps

[eversonpoe]

i love shangela (as a person and as a queen, she has grown so much since her first appearance on the show) but trixie is muh gurl. without ben there, i want trixie to win.

also, i had no idea ben was going to eliminate herself, but i made a joke to my wife (who had gotten a spoiler on instagram literally the morning after the show aired, seriously wtf people???) that ben was probably going to write someone else's name with white out on a lipstick...and i was right. i cried because i am probably legit in love with ben and her and trixie were always my top two.

seriously, though, all that drama b.s. at the beginning of the episode was painful to watch. drama's fine when it's fun and entertaining, but that was just people being arrogant or rude in a really basic way, not good tv. show me more of the competition. show me them working on their dance routines (because it's always fun and funny). i don't understand that editing choice.

[kel]

everyone i know has been and is team trixie. ben basically won this already, though.

[eversonpoe]

seriously, ru...fuck you. from the entire trans community, fuck you.


What I can’t understand is how transgender women can enter a drag contest. Last year RuPaul’s Drag Race was widely acclaimed for featuring its first openly transgender contestant, called Peppermint – but if transgender women must be identified as female, how can they also be “men dressing up as women”?


“Well, I don’t like to call drag ‘wearing women’s clothes’. If you look around this room,” and he gestures around the hotel lobby, “she’s wearing a shirt with jeans, that one’s wearing jeans and a T-shirt, right? So women don’t really dress like us. We are wearing clothes that are hyperfeminine, that represent our culture’s synthetic idea of femininity.”
In the subculture of drag you do occasionally find what are known as “bio queens” – biological women who mimic the exaggerated femininity of drag. Would RuPaul allow a biological woman to compete on the show? He hesitates. “Drag loses its sense of danger and its sense of irony once it’s not men doing it, because at its core it’s a social statement and a big f-you to male-dominated culture. So for men to do it, it’s really punk rock, because it’s a real rejection of masculinity.”

So how can a transgender woman be a drag queen? “Mmmm. It’s an interesting area. Peppermint didn’t get breast implants until after she left our show; she was identifying as a woman, but she hadn’t really transitioned.” Would he accept a contestant who had? He hesitates again. “Probably not. You can identify as a woman and say you’re transitioning, but it changes once you start changing your body. It takes on a different thing; it changes the whole concept of what we’re doing. We’ve had some girls who’ve had some injections in the face and maybe a little bit in the butt here and there, but they haven’t transitioned.”



https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2018/mar/03/rupaul-drag-race-big-f-you-to-male-dominated-culture

[Dr.Z]

Well, most of all, this shows that Ru doesn't really understand what being trans or transitioning means. Which really is a pity.

[kel]

i don't know that i *deserve* an opinion as a cis male. but if cis women started competing, wouldn't it just be, like, showgirls? that wouldn't make sense. i don't get what she's saying about post-transition contestants, though. what difference would that make if peppermint had breast implants before her season? less chest contouring? is that unfair? um, no.

[Dr.Z]

Aaaaand here's Ru's apology:

https://mobile.twitter.com/RuPaul/status/970810665685299201


Each morning I pray to set aside everything I THINK I know, so I may have an open mind and a new experience. I understand and regret the hurt I have caused. The trans community are heroes of our shared LGBTQ movement. You are my teachers.


In the 10 years we’ve been casting Drag Race, the only thing we've ever screened for is charisma uniqueness nerve and talent. And that will never change.

[eversonpoe]

Aaaaand here's Ru's apology:

https://mobile.twitter.com/RuPaul/status/970810665685299201

"i'm covering my ass because i don't want my ratings to drop"

ughhhhh

[Dr.Z]

This girl on reddit has a point which I, being trans and a fan of the show, can fully agree on:


I just want to play devils advocate. Full disclosure: Im a trans woman with passing privilege. I also do drag and and have competed in transgender only pageants. I agree that what Ru said is a little tone deaf, or could have been worded a little bit better.

Drag Race is just not that kind of show that is inclusive of all drag. Does that suck? Absolutely, but I've come to realize that Drag Race is a very specific show. Its a show about female impersonators, where the transformation aspect plays a big role in the tone of the series. Its why being a "hot guy" is a constant topic amongst the fandom. Theres a reason why alternative forms of drag rarely do well in the competition and are only featured in specific runways.

Then theres Drag Race Thailand. Meannie Minaj is a contestant who is openly trans, and lives her life as a woman when shes not in drag. However, you see her time on the show and she is masquerading around as a man, wearing "male clothing." Why would a country who recognizes the third gender force a contestant to do so? Because the brand requires it. They are looking for a specific type of drag queen to represent what the show is currently about.

Which brings me to pageants. There are shows that exclude trans queens. There are pageants that include trans queens, and there are pageants only for trans queens. All with different criteria as to who they want to represent their brand and title. Now, one could argue that a show with this much leverage should be all inclusive, and I agree. However, as of right now, at its core, its still a show about female impersonators, with its own set of rules.

Now, my hope is that as the show continues, and begins to evolve, there will be a need to have a different conversation. One that does include trans voices, but right now, Drag Race is not at that point.

Edit: At the end of it, I do not want this to tarnish the show, as I'm hopeful for the future. And as of right now, this is the only voice in the media powerful enough for cishets to see how talented queer people can be.


Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/rupaulsdragrace/comments/8281ps/trans_women_sound_off_what_do_you_feel_needs_to/dv87qma/

[playwithfire]

i don't know that i *deserve* an opinion as a cis male. but if cis women started competing, wouldn't it just be, like, showgirls? that wouldn't make sense. i don't get what she's saying about post-transition contestants, though. what difference would that make if peppermint had breast implants before her season? less chest contouring? is that unfair? um, no.

nah, faux queens most commonly do just as extreme drag as male competitors. Like, drastically changing their appearance. I do think it intersects in some places with burlesque, which is def a showgirl thing, but you typically see a huge alteration of their appearance either way. Like, I know when I play around with drag my makeup is changing how my face looks drastically, whereas my burlesque makeup is just making my lips a little fuller and blocking out half of my brows.

In other news, RuPaul fucking posted A TRAIN PIECE OF ARTWORK instead of the trans flag and I fucking can't https://twitter.com/RuPaul/status/970810822413795328

[eversonpoe]

https://slate.com/human-interest/2018/03/why-rupauls-anti-trans-comments-were-such-a-train-wreck.html


Although both the transgender flag and Train Landscape by Ellsworth Kelly portray large fields of colors arranged in horizontal stripes on a rectangular area, they differ significantly in that the colors for the transgender flag are pink, blue, and white rather than yellow and two shades of green, and in that the transgender flag stands for transgender rights while Train Landscape, presumably, stands for trains. Far be it from me to railroad RuPaul; perhaps he was suffering from tunnel vision.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/07c6b732567b36882dfbbdf907144371/tenor.gif?itemid=9076817

[kel]

welp, no real surprise. except shangela getting robbed for the third time when it came down to the final two. what a painfully odd, predictable (but not?) season. ten starts next week.

edit: the "kitty girl" video was outstanding. they all did great, including trixie who is pretty limited when it comes to choreography. the whole thing was very impressive.

[kel]

the two-hour season ten premiere is tonight. really excited for it. courtney love is going to be a guest judge (!!!) at some point.

[eversonpoe]

the two-hour season ten premiere is tonight. really excited for it. courtney love is going to be a guest judge (!!!) at some point.

wait, seriously? already?

[kel]

wait, seriously? already?

right? i'm so used to waiting 9+ months between seasons.

[eversonpoe]

right? i'm so used to waiting 9+ months between seasons.

i really hate that people on social media don't take into account that many people don't watch shows while they air. i had the winner of all stars 3 spoiled for me because when i opened instagram that night it was the first post in my feed. i can't watch the show the night it's on, i have to wait until the next day. it sucks that people don't take that kind of shit into account.

[kel]

i don't know how to post spoilers properly on my mobile. i try to be innocuous in my posts and if i've ruined anything for you i'm hella sorry.

edit: the queen i dug least went home. there was a ton of foreshadowing. saw it coming a mile away.

[halo eighteen]

i don't know how to post spoilers properly on my mobile. i try to be innocuous in my posts and if i've ruined anything for you i'm hella sorry.

edit: the queen i dug least went home. there was a ton of foreshadowing. saw it coming a mile away.

I have to agree. Way better premiere than I was expecting. And the right queen was the first to go. Poor Eureka is going to have to fight hard to stick around long, though.

And I don't know what the entire cast sees in Kameron out of drag. Totally not my type at all.

[eversonpoe]

i don't know how to post spoilers properly on my mobile. i try to be innocuous in my posts and if i've ruined anything for you i'm hella sorry.

edit: the queen i dug least went home. there was a ton of foreshadowing. saw it coming a mile away.

oh, honey, i wasn't talking about you! i don't go into this thread until i've watched the episode (save for right now, since it was the first one and i don't care that much). someone who had been on all stars three immediately posted a congrats to the winner and it was the first post i saw on instagram when i woke up the next morning, excited to watch the show that night. it was just so frustrating! you shouldn't have to unfollow a bunch of people on social media to avoid spoilers, people should have an understanding that not everyone can watch things at the exact same time. idunno. i feel like i'm yelling at a cloud :/

[kel]

And I don't know what the entire cast sees in Kameron out of drag. Totally not my type at all.
word. she's not even *that* buff, reminds me a lot of the princess. and how did no one clock her kelly-mantle-bacon-dress hair?

this was a really outstanding premiere. they did everything right; a seriously kick ass mini-challenge (and at this point they should be mandatory -- hopefully the 90-minute showtime will make room for one every week), plenty of work room footage to flesh out personalities, and an awesome maxi-challenge that harkens back to season one and really highlights the queens' skill and creativity.

[Dr.Z]

Fully agree, that was an awesome season premiere!

[kel]

i fucking love how the southern queens react to miz cracker's name. and she's probably my early favorite. "okay, time for DINNER!".

[kel]

another great episode. these queens aren't playing the radio this season.

good god, someone give kalorie some big hair already -- her head is so disproportionately small for her body, even without pads.

[hellospaceboy]

Agree, great season so far! I've never watched the show as it aired before, so it's strange not to be ale to binge the whole thing...

[eversonpoe]

miz cracker is definitely growing on me. i think the vixen is hilarious. i'm usually embarrassed of whatever chicago queen is on the show but she's doing pretty well.

also, alyssa was the best part of the episode (which is a bit sad for all the current girls). :: tongue pop ::

[kel]

the vixen's "best drag" was a sloppy mess. wtf was with that make-up? those brows? gurl.

courtney love is tomorrow's guest judge. and another guy, a designer i'm unfamiliar with.

[kel]

the vixen is so unlikable. when queens tout themselves as *so real* and *tell it like it is*, that ends up being a thinly-veiled penchant to be an asshole.

what a cunt. over her.

[eversonpoe]

other than the vixen & aquaria being catty, the episode was so much fun. i'm glad mayhem sent yuhua home. you don't fucking play air guitar during a lip sync in front of courntey love. ugh. it was really refreshing to see them do a rock song, though. definitely added some energy and flair!

also, how mad do you think monique is that asia won with a tweety bird look when her cookie monster look (which i adored) didn't get her any praise?

[kel]

i'm starting to understand the vixen. she knows exactly what she's doing.

i *love* the maxi challenge, and having it come this early in the season was a smart move. i'd say it separates the girls from the queens, but everyone showed up tonight for the most part. i don't know that the win was deserved, though. seemed lazy to me.

this episode's surprise was blair, even though she wasn't in the spotlight much. it also had a kick ass lipsync (with a tough-as-fuck song). the winner TURNT it.

anyone else having deja vu with these queens? of course there's monet and bob and yuhua and bianca, but kameron's runway looks scream chad michaels (no relation) and dusty was serving thorgy face tonight.

i <3 season 10.

[Dr.Z]

I hope Ru will get better real quick, I think she got the flu during filming. She seemed quite ill the last two episodes - in Ep. 3, her voice sounded very thin and this week, the eyes looked very swollen in the werk room as well. I guess the mask thing was a deliberate choice to hide these things.

[eversonpoe]

i'm starting to understand the vixen. she knows exactly what she's doing.

i *love* the maxi challenge, and having it come this early in the season was a smart move. i'd say it separates the girls from the queens, but everyone showed up tonight for the most part. i don't know that the win was deserved, though. seemed lazy to me.

this episode's surprise was blair, even though she wasn't in the spotlight much. it also had a kick ass lipsync (with a tough-as-fuck song). the winner TURNT it.

anyone else having deja vu with these queens? of course there's monet and bob and yuhua and bianca, but kameron's runway looks scream chad michaels (no relation) and dusty was serving thorgy face tonight.

i <3 season 10.

should i be putting stuff behind a spoiler tag? :: shrug ::

i think aquaraia should have been safe, blair should have been in the top, and miz cracker should have won. that was...very frustrating.

i'm gonna miss dusty. her looks aren't always perfect, but i like her personality (and out of drag, what a cutie!)

[kel]

i still don't know how to use spoiler tags on my mobile, which is why i'm vague when i post right after the show airs. should i, like, wait until the weekend's over before posting?

cracker TOTALLY should have won.

[eversonpoe]

which queen was it that had the adorably goofy laugh? i was cracking up at that shit.

as for spoiler tags, there don't seem to be a ton of us who come in here to discuss the show, and i wait until i've watched the episode to do so. so i say fuck it.

also, this is everything right now - http://www.newnownext.com/blair-st-clair-yodeling-boy-drag-race/04/2018/

p.s. apparently the yodeling kid played at fucking coachella? wut?

[thevoid99]

which queen was it that had the adorably goofy laugh? i was cracking up at that shit.

as for spoiler tags, there don't seem to be a ton of us who come in here to discuss the show, and i wait until i've watched the episode to do so. so i say fuck it.

also, this is everything right now - http://www.newnownext.com/blair-st-clair-yodeling-boy-drag-race/04/2018/

p.s. apparently the yodeling kid played at fucking coachella? wut?

I know. Coachella has jumped the shark.

[halo eighteen]

I know. Coachella has jumped the shark.

Some DJ named Whethan brought him out as a guest, he wasn't like booked as a performer or anything. But yeah, it's mostly hip hop and bro fist edm crap now. Most bands with guitars didn't have a good attendance, including St. Vincent. It's not their fault that even when they do book worthwhile acts no one bothers to watch.

What a gross episode last night, btw. The Vixen is clearly only sticking around for the sake of drama. Should've surely been bottom two, if not immediately sent home for the incredibly mean-spirited, unfunny "parody" impression trainwreck of the main challenge. The lip sync winner resorted to every single gimmick imaginable (fucking air guitar?) and somehow won. Why is Kameron even still around? Meh, this season.

[kel]

the vixen is just too salty for me, but you can tell the producers live for her. i really wanted to see her in the bottom last night.

ugh, the fucking air guitar again! aside from that cringiness, monet still did better than mayhem. i really fucking hate it when they choose a country song, regardless of the guest judge.

kameron has some great runway looks, which is weird because her work room entrance look in the premier was so lackluster.

i still love this season. there were no flat liners in the maxi challenge. and i'm so proud of eureka. she deserved that win.

[Dr.Z]

I love that Miss Vaaanjie is still the meme of the season after five episodes :D

[eversonpoe]

the vixen is just too salty for me, but you can tell the producers live for her. i really wanted to see her in the bottom last night.

ugh, the fucking air guitar again! aside from that cringiness, monet still did better than mayhem. i really fucking hate it when they choose a country song, regardless of the guest judge.

kameron has some great runway looks, which is weird because her work room entrance look in the premier was so lackluster.

i still love this season. there were no flat liners in the maxi challenge. and i'm so proud of eureka. she deserved that win.

eh, i think miz cracker should have won. she fucking turned it out in the maxi challenge and on the runway. eureka's runway look was...idunno i just didn't like it? the hair was great, though. i also think miz cracker should have won last week so :: shrug :: i'm not sure what the judges aren't seeing. and i hated her in the first episode, but now she's my fav.

monet's lip sync was all gimmicks and gags and none of them had me gagging, they all just made me feel awkward and uncomfortable. i'm gonna miss mayhem because i actually really like nice queens, and mayhem is a sweetheart.

also, kameron in the maxi challenge was amazing. she was so fucking funny. and she saved that team because WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH THE CAKE DELIVERY SERVICE??? that joke went NOWHERE.

[kel]

i love miz cracker. she's whip smart.

the talent on display this season is undeniable.

i'll miss mayhem and it's a shame that she left so early. i know the expectations for her were sky high.

[eversonpoe]

i love miz cracker. she's whip smart.

the talent on display this season is undeniable.

i'll miss mayhem and it's a shame that she left so early. i know the expectations for her were sky high.

miz cracker reminds me a lot of myself (except way funnier).

http://imagesvh1-a.akamaihd.net/uri/mgid:ao:image:mtv:648442?quality=0.8&format=jpg&width=980&height=551

"i'm not just dressed like a pickle...i am a pickle."

[kel]

man, tonight's elimination was rough. blair was just starting to rev up and i began to like her so much. i think her problem in the lip sync was delivery -- "i'm coming out" is a celebration, not the aggressive, almost serious spin she put on it. and shame on her for not knowing all the words. it's i'm coming out, fer fuck's sake.

[kel]

fucking FINALLY. hey, vixen: ask roxxxy and tyra how being an insufferable cunt on the show worked out for them.

good goddamn riddance.

um ... KAMERON! come thruuuuu! she slayed the challenge, and (holy shit) looked GORGEOUS on the runway. so glad to see her shine.

[halo eighteen]

^didn't tyra win, though? lol

I swear I was gonna lose my shit if Vixen was gonna win yet another lip synch. I just wish Eureka could've been the one to send her packing. So very happy for Kameron as well.