David Bowie

[thevoid99]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb4ECqsrTfA

[october_midnight]

Nevermind!

[ChipRock]

I like David Baddiel (British comedian), so I was pleased to see him doing a Bowie themed podcast. It's a bit all over the place, but might be of interest to others...

https://www.acast.com/stalkingtimeforthemoonboys/stwtmbep01

Supposed to be about getting into obscure details of Bowie and his music, but is far from an academic study or anything.

[thevoid99]

Coming later this year: Loving the Alien (1983-1988): https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/david-bowies-mid-eighties-work-collected-for-massive-loving-the-alien-box-set-699751/

Plus a re-work of Never Let Me Down. Here is another link with info on the reissue: https://www.davidbowie.com/blog/2018/7/18/david-bowie-loving-the-alien-1983-1988-due-october

[The Doctor]

Two different versions of Never Let Me Down and they can’t manage to include “Too Dizzy,” even for historical purposes? I call serious bullshit. On one hand I think it’s cool they’ve been doing these boxed sets and including some genuinely interesting stuff, but there’s been enough missed opportunities with these sets to drive me insane. After they do all these boxes sets, THEN maybe we get a true rarities and b-sides compilation? Or never? Sigh...


Coming later this year: Loving the Alien (1983-1988): https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/david-bowies-mid-eighties-work-collected-for-massive-loving-the-alien-box-set-699751/

Plus a re-work of Never Let Me Down. Here is another link with info on the reissue: https://www.davidbowie.com/blog/2018/7/18/david-bowie-loving-the-alien-1983-1988-due-october

[thevoid99]

I've heard "Too Dizzy" and.... it's fucking awful. I don't blame Bowie for getting rid of it. However.... here's a sample of a re-worked version of "Zeroes" and honestly, it's a fucking improvement.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4uw7RrzwYY

[Space Suicide]

I bought the new Barnes & Noble exclusive White and Orange Swirl vinyl press of Reality today. I'll post it in the vinyl thread tomorrow!

[Reznor2112]

Two different versions of Never Let Me Down and they can’t manage to include “Too Dizzy,” even for historical purposes? I call serious bullshit. On one hand I think it’s cool they’ve been doing these boxed sets and including some genuinely interesting stuff, but there’s been enough missed opportunities with these sets to drive me insane. After they do all these boxes sets, THEN maybe we get a true rarities and b-sides compilation? Or never? Sigh...

Bowie hated Too Dizzy and since he was involved at the beginning of these box sets before he passed...he probably set certain stipulations on the front end. IE. not including 'Too Dizzy'.

[imail724]

I imagine this box set is gonna be a big seller....


/s

[botley]

Two different versions of Never Let Me Down and they can’t manage to include “Too Dizzy,” even for historical purposes? I call serious bullshit.
It's not available for reissue. Bowie pulled the rights to it in the 90s when he bought back his catalogue and deliberately excluded it from all subsequent publishing agreements. Unlikely that his estate will go back on those wishes now.

Even after the mastering SNAFUs with previous boxes (eg. brickwall-limiting, tape errors, needledrops, etc.) I'm still somehow pressing the pre-order button on this one. Really excited to hear what they've done with the rest of the Never Let Me Down remix, the iSelect MM version of "Time Will Crawl" is one of the coolest remixes Bowie approved while he was alive so hopefully this follows in that spirit.

[Space Suicide]

the iSelect MM version of "Time Will Crawl" is one of the coolest remixes Bowie approved while he was alive so hopefully this follows in that spirit.

Only version of that song I enjoy. I love it!

[botley]

I listened to Reeves Gabrels, who appears on the new remixes, speak on the air to BBC6 Music — the segment is here, starting about 44 minutes (https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b94x6q) into the iPlayer Radio slider thingy. Basically, it appears that there were completely new recordings for the instrumentation on every track, which was apparently at Bowie's behest because the MM remix turned out so well, and he discussed with Mario McNulty (who did all of the new production/mixing) what to do with the rest of the record before he passed, including an outline of what musicians should be involved. Bowie had always wanted to re-record parts of it as soon as 1988, according to Reeves, but never got around to overseeing more than the one track during his lifetime.

Reeves says he recorded his acoustic parts for the record just like they used to when David was alive, with Bowie's voice and guitar playing in his headphones along with Reeves' own guitar, to the point where he could close his eyes and forget his old friend wasn't actually there and see him singing in his mind's eye while playing along. No idea if Reeves is full of shit, but it all seems plausible. I can almost picture that happening while I listen to the new version of "Zeroes".

[thevoid99]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hV1KHrNZEI

[trollmanen]

I'll never understand why people complain about Too Dizzy. It was left off the 1995 Virgin reissue and the 1999 EMI reissue because Bowie didn't like it and that's the same reason it's not in the box set now. There are plenty of original copies of the album available for a few dollars if you want that track. Reading about the track in Nicholas Pegg's book, Bowie seemed to dislike the track even in '87 according to one interview.

I think this box is one of the better ones in terms of exclusive content. You get two live albums, both only released on video and DVD, but will have better sound here. The new version of Never Let Me Down is going to be great, judging by the old version of Time Will Crawl and Zeroes. The Re:Call disc will have remastered versions of all the various singles from the era, of which there are plenty. I'm hoping that the Labyrinth tracks have gotten a proper remastering here, as the vinyl reissue that came out a year or so ago isn't good at all, and even the original CD issue has problems. I've been meaning to make recording of my Japanese pressing of that one, probably the sounding version of that album.

[Space Suicide]

https://noisey.vice.com/en_au/article/kzyze3/david-bowie-first-demo-recorded-at-16-found-in-a-bread-basket

cool news!

[fillow]

So um... That Let's Dance (song) demo is not on the new box set? How so? I thought it was supposed to be a teaser of sorts.

upd:
And I would also very much welcome live tracks from Live Aid 1985 included in some way or another. Oh well. Maybe on another RSD EP? (Like the recent Live In Berlin 1978)

One more thought: the fact that they remixed Lodger, and then went even further and re-recorded NLMD gives me hope that they'll properly arrange and mix all the stuff from Leon/Outside sessions for a 90s box-set. A man can dream.

[chuckrh]

So um... That Let's Dance (song) demo is not on the new box set? How so? I thought it was supposed to be a teaser of sorts.

upd:
And I would also very much welcome live tracks from Live Aid 1985 included in some way or another. Oh well. Maybe on another RSD EP? (Like the recent Live In Berlin 1978)

One more thought: the fact that they remixed Lodger, and then went even further and re-recorded NLMD gives me hope that they'll properly arrange and mix all the stuff from Leon/Outside sessions for a 90s box-set. A man can dream.

how about a proper soundboard from the outside tour with the NIN content intact? as long as we're dreaming....;)

[botley]

That Let's Dance (song) demo is not on the new box set? How so? I thought it was supposed to be a teaser of sorts.
No, it was meant to be a stand-alone single. There's not likely going to be more demos coming from that period now that Erdal Kızılçay is reportedly pissed that they released it without consulting him (that's him on bass in the demo). He's threatening in the press to sue Bowie's record company (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/how-david-bowies-biggest-disappointment-became-a-posthumous-reworked-album-702189/) for not consulting or crediting him properly.

[fillow]

Wishful thinking for the next boxsets and reissues:

- Tin Machine 1989-1991 box (TMI, TMII, Expanded Oy Vey Baby live album, Re:call 5 with random stuff)
- Live album from S+V 1990 tour as a RSD release (probably the most likely scenario, looking at the established pattern of releases)
- 1992-1998 box (BTWN, Buddha, Outside, Earthling + Leon tapes + Re:call 6)
- RSD releases with 1995 and 1997 tour albums
- 1999-2004 box (Hours, Heathen, Earthling + remastered Toy + Re:call 7)
- RSD release of 2002 show (possibly Montreux jazz fest)

[botley]

Oh man, that Montreux show is smokin'. I have the whole thing in HD if anybody needs a hookup.

[elevenism]

Oh man, that Montreux show is smokin'. I have the whole thing in HD if anybody needs a hookup.Holla at yer homeboy.

[chuckrh]

Oh man, that Montreux show is smokin'. I have the whole thing in HD if anybody needs a hookup.

Ya, that's a good 1 for sure. That band he had for the final tours was killer. I was lucky to see several shows.

[trollmanen]

Oh man, that Montreux show is smokin'. I have the whole thing in HD if anybody needs a hookup.

Anyone interested in this or other live shows should check out BowieStation. It's all torrent based and you need to sign up and keep a ratio, but it's a full archive of live Bowie recordings, on par with RITC (sorry, NINLive).

[roolfdriht]

Wishful thinking for the next boxsets and reissues:

- Tin Machine 1989-1991 box (TMI, TMII, Expanded Oy Vey Baby live album, Re:call 5 with random stuff)
- Live album from S+V 1990 tour as a RSD release (probably the most likely scenario, looking at the established pattern of releases)
- 1992-1998 box (BTWN, Buddha, Outside, Earthling + Leon tapes + Re:call 6)
- RSD releases with 1995 and 1997 tour albums
- 1999-2004 box (Hours, Heathen, Earthling + remastered Toy + Re:call 7)
- RSD release of 2002 show (possibly Montreux jazz fest)

If for no other reason than I don't want to wait an extra year for it, I hope that Earthling is included in the same box as Outside. One could argue that the electronic experimentation present on both albums makes them a logical pairing, but logic has never been a limiter on record company decisions...

[StockAvuryah]

If for no other reason than I don't want to wait an extra year for it, I hope that Earthling is included in the same box as Outside. One could argue that the electronic experimentation present on both albums makes them a logical pairing, but logic has never been a limiter on record company decisions...

Would be easy to drop those 5 Leon Suites (double cd) but of course it won't happen

[thevoid99]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qcAtflfVYs

[Reznor2112]

Glastonbury 2000 out on 3xLP, 2xCD, DVD and Digital via Parlophone in November

https://www.davidbowie.com/blog/2018/10/2/bowies-glastonbury-2000-performance-due-november

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a70fa14e45a7c7dd2fadad0/t/5bb3678fe79c70c2aa3b828e/1538484121661/glasto_2000_cvr_1080sq.jpg?format=2500w

[neorev]

^^ Looks awesome ^^

Part of me was hoping for more Earthling material played during this set. I love that album. Hope we get some expanded edition one day. I'll take whatever they have from that era.

[Reznor2112]

^^ Looks awesome ^^

Part of me was hoping for more Earthling material played during this set. I love that album. Hope we get some expanded edition one day. I'll take whatever they have from that era.

There are two Earthing tracks on the set. Little Wonder and I'm Afraid of Americans were played. It was a "greatest hits" show though... I don't foresee a more expanded edition other than this since this is the full setlist from the show, unless you mean an expanded edition of Earthing which we WILL get.

Also, I am just shocked that this wasn't held back for the inevitable 90's or 2000's era boxset.

[neorev]

There are two Earthing tracks on the set. Little Wonder and I'm Afraid of Americans were played. It was a "greatest hits" show though... I don't foresee a more expanded edition other than this since this is the full setlist from the show, unless you mean an expanded edition of Earthing which we WILL get.

Also, I am just shocked that this wasn't held back for the inevitable 90's or 2000's era boxset.

Sorry, I meant Earthling expanded set. I'd love one.

[botley]

There's this (https://www.discogs.com/David-Bowie-Earthling/release/530636), but it's far from comprehensive.

[neorev]

Yeah, botley got that one :)
What's interesting is this would have been the album David Bowie approached Liam Howlett of The Prodigy to work on. Liam turned down the opportunity. Curious what the could have been like. He also turned down Madonna, which she ended up working with William Orbit to produce Ray Of Light. Somewhere in an alternate universe is a world where Liam Howlett produced Ray Of Light and Earthling... oh, and would have opened for U2 as well. :p

[innerturmoil]

Also, I am just shocked that this wasn't held back for the inevitable 90's or 2000's era boxset.

They'll probably use the full 2000 BBC performance that was excerpted with initial copies of Bowie At The Beeb.

[botley]

Only three sleeps until Loving the Alien 1983–1988 comes out! Who's ready for the redemption of the Sexy Sax Man era?

[Reznor2112]

Only three sleeps until Loving the Alien 1983–1988 comes out! Who's ready for the redemption of the Sexy Sax Man era?

Tis the day for sexy time! Can't wait for the UPS to deliver my vinyl set!

I will say, I hope that they re-release the Serious Moonlight & Glass Spider DVDs soon.

[Toadflax]

Fancy Heathen LP incoming!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GVSKBJL/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

[blitzkrieg]

Do not waste your money : Heathen 10€

https://musique.fnac.com/a10328720/David-Bowie-Heathen-Vinyle-album?omnsearchpos=1

[Space Suicide]

The new mix of Glass Spider is the shit. Totally giving me an Outside vibe.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efzVgrda54k


Fancy Heathen LP incoming!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GVSKBJL/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

I own this pressing. I got it at Barnes & Noble. They repressed Reality too.

[Toadflax]

Do not waste your money : Heathen 10€

https://musique.fnac.com/a10328720/David-Bowie-Heathen-Vinyle-album?omnsearchpos=1

I don't see an option for shipping outside of France.

[blitzkrieg]

I don't see an option for shipping outside of France.

It seems you're right :/
Sorry.

[ghostaustin]

Am I overlooking it, or is the original version of Cat People missing from Loving The Alien? That version is one of my favorite songs ever, possibly because of it's use in Inglorious Basterds.

[botley]

Am I overlooking it, or is the original version of Cat People missing from Loving The Alien? That version is one of my favorite songs ever, possibly because of it's use in Inglorious Basterds.

It's on A New Career in a New Town 1977–1982 (which makes sense, because it came out in 1982).

[ghostaustin]

It's on A New Career in a New Town 1977–1982 (which makes sense, because it came out in 1982).

Well, that makes sense I suppose. Thanks!

[NotoriousTIMP]

OUTSIDE, HEATHEN, and HOURS (https://fridaymusic.com/collections/all/david-bowie) are getting the repress treatment and are up for pre-order! This will be the first time OUTSIDE is pressed with a complete track listing and comes in two variants.

[Toadflax]

OUTSIDE, HEATHEN, and HOURS (https://fridaymusic.com/collections/all/david-bowie) are getting the repress treatment and are up for pre-order! This will be the first time OUTSIDE is pressed with a complete track listing and comes in two variants.

Very excited to get these. This is the Bowie I grew up on.

How do you guys choose between different swirly options? This is new to me.

[eversonpoe]

Very excited to get these. This is the Bowie I grew up on.

How do you guys choose between different swirly options? This is new to me.

which one makes ya feel more swirly, eh? ;p

[NotoriousTIMP]

Very excited to get these. This is the Bowie I grew up on.

How do you guys choose between different swirly options? This is new to me.

I went with the green/blue since the black/white seemed kinda boring.

[chuckrh]

The Glastonbury 2000 dvd is stunning. A few songs to warm up & the master has 120,000 people in the palm of his hand. This is holy grail stuff, go buy it now!

[frankie teardrop]

OUTSIDE, HEATHEN, and HOURS (https://fridaymusic.com/collections/all/david-bowie) are getting the repress treatment and are up for pre-order! This will be the first time OUTSIDE is pressed with a complete track listing and comes in two variants.

Outside does exist in its full form on wax, but is very out of print already, so these reissues are great for anyone who missed out the first time!

[october_midnight]

72 today. Happy Birthday, Starman.

[botley]

They've done an Augmented Reality version of the Bowie Is... exhibition (https://davidbowieisreal.com/) which is out today, with Gary Oldman narrating. I'll have to check it out, I loved seeing the exhibit when it visited Toronto.

Also... wow, this looks interesting (https://www.davidbowie.com/blog/2019/1/8/parlophone-set-to-release-rare-bowie-tracks): a full slate of unreleased 1968-vintage demos (after the debut album, before Space Oddity) set to be released as 7" vinyl singles.

[fillow]

Finally listened to Never Let Me Down 2018 and... no. Just, no. The new version just sounds like a batch of remastered demos. The producer stripped the songs from pretty much all the catchy hooks, and replaced them with unbelievably generic acoustic guitars and string sections. OK, Reeves and Sterling did good jobs, but overall... Yeah the songs became much less 80s, but they also became bland and boring. Never Let Me Down is a guilty please album of mine, and I need that bit of cheese in every song that original version have.

[talkingnothing]

They've done an Augmented Reality version of the Bowie Is... exhibition (https://davidbowieisreal.com/) which is out today, with Gary Oldman narrating. I'll have to check it out, I loved seeing the exhibit when it visited Toronto.
Has anyone checked this out yet? never made it to any of the exhibits and wondering if this app is worth it and how it functions.

[Substance242]

Just watched "David Bowie: Finding Fame", I don't really like that much that early stuff, but very interesting indeed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0002jlw
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6687103/David-Bowie-Finding-Fame-Jim-Shelley.html

[chuckrh]

i was listening to the cd of the glass spider show yesterday. it has aged surprisingly well. well maybe not a huge surprise since david was always ahead of everyone else. i saw 2 shows on that tour & i thought it was great at the time. lots of pretty unique stuff in the set (all the mad men, sons of the silent age, killer version of big brother, etc). worth a listen if you are so inclined.

[october_midnight]

Fuck I wish he was still around...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNbnef_eXBM

[Reznor2112]

Fuck I wish he was still around...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNbnef_eXBM

Have watched this a few dozen times over the past few years when feeling down or less than or when I need to be motivated to not be a slave to the wage.

[Shadaloo]

Every time I think nobody could ever care to hear what I have to say and I'm not cut out to make art, I hear his voice and I know I can never abandon that dream.

Bowie LP historians, if any: What's your opinions on the 2017 and onward LP reissues? I hear varying things. I have the entire discography on CD from various releases, but I've decided to finally make that leap here too. Heard horrible things about Heroes being butchered and Low being too bassy. I picked up the latter the other day regardless, simply because it's one of my favorite albums and I need to flex my brand new turntable's muscles but haven't got around to listening yet (Will once I get some great new speakers this weekend).

[Reznor2112]

Every time I think nobody could ever care to hear what I have to say and I'm not cut out to make art, I hear his voice and I know I can never abandon that dream.

Bowie LP historians, if any: What's your opinions on the 2017 and onward LP reissues? I hear varying things. I have the entire discography on CD from various releases, but I've decided to finally make that leap here too. Heard horrible things about Heroes being butchered and Low being too bassy. I picked up the latter the other day regardless, simply because it's one of my favorite albums and I need to flex my brand new turntable's muscles but haven't got around to listening yet (Will once I get some great new speakers this weekend).

Low: I love the new version. Tony Visconti said it was intentional to make it more bassy because that was what was originally intended but sonically they couldnt pull it off when they first recorded it.

Heroes: this was minor. Very minor. And they fixed it. sent new presses out. LP still sounds great.

[Toadflax]

So I just submitted an order which will mean I have every Bowie studio album on vinyl with the exception of Earthling and Black Tie White Noise, which are currently out of print.

My guess is these will be reissued at some point in the next few years, simply because almost everything else in the catalogue has been. Does anyone have any insight into the likelihood of this?

I certainly don't want to spend $100+ on one of the OOP versions to find out a few months later it's being reissued.

Thanks!

[hellospaceboy]

So I just submitted an order which will mean I have every Bowie studio album on vinyl with the exception of Earthling and Black Tie White Noise, which are currently out of print.

My guess is these will be reissued at some point in the next few years, simply because almost everything else in the catalogue has been. Does anyone have any insight into the likelihood of this?

I certainly don't want to spend $100+ on one of the OOP versions to find out a few months later it's being reissued.

Thanks!

I'm not sure what the likelihood of this is, but I'm dying for Earthling to get a reissue! That's my favorite Bowie album (that's the one that made me a fan back in '97) and hunting down an original pressing is a nightmare :(

[Reznor2112]

So I just submitted an order which will mean I have every Bowie studio album on vinyl with the exception of Earthling and Black Tie White Noise, which are currently out of print.

My guess is these will be reissued at some point in the next few years, simply because almost everything else in the catalog has been. Does anyone have any insight into the likelihood of this?

I certainly don't want to spend $100+ on one of the OOP versions to find out a few months later it's being reissued.

Thanks!

My assumption is that is the next box set -- likely to be announced this Summer with a Winter release.

[Toadflax]

My assumption is that is the next box set -- likely to be announced this Summer with a Winter release.

Do the box sets contain the albums as standalone pieces (sleeve, liner notes, etc.), or are they just multiple LPs in a box set box?

[eversonpoe]

Do the box sets contain the albums as standalone pieces (sleeve, liner notes, etc.), or are they just multiple LPs in a box set box?

they've been releasing the individual remasters from the box sets after the fact every time, so my guess is that will happen with the next set

[Toadflax]

they've been releasing the individual remasters from the box sets after the fact every time, so my guess is that will happen with the next set

Ah, gotcha. Very cool. Thanks, all!

[armogi]

Are we even sure outside and earthling will be on the next box?
The last one was only 3 albums and there is quite some stuff done between 88 and 94, tin machine 1 and 2, buddha, btwn, they may stop at 94...

[fillow]

My wish is that the next box is 100% Tin Machine.

BTW Bowie channel recently posted this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H0hS1lxq4I

I can't tell you how glad I am to finally watch TM videos online because I couldn't find any in the past due to region restriction.

[chuckrh]

Here's an extremely cool story that was posted by spikenyc on the IORR site (Stones). I was privileged to meet Bowie once. One thing I would say is Bowie was pretty short as were a lot of the guys who grew up in post war Britian. Nutrition wasn't good. I've met quite a few of the rock gods who grew up then & they have all been pretty short except for Robert Plant who was a country boy. The thing about Bowie is he had a giant aura about him that made him seem larger than life even when you were talking to him. Miss him terribly. Kudos to Trent for carrying the torch, its a monumental task. Anyway, enjoy this!

Growing up on Staten Island, I was fairly sure I’d become the next Lawrence Taylor or Carl Banks. If my football career didn’t pan out, I had basketball. I was sure I’d be the next great white hope. A new version of Larry Bird or Chris Mullin. If option two didn’t pan out, I had baseball as my backup plan. Don Mattingly was my hero and I was surely destined to be just as good as him. When reality set in, I graduated from Monsignor Farrell and matriculated at SUNY Plattsburgh where I was the star of my fraternity touch football team.

My father was fireman, and I wanted badly to follow in his footsteps. I passed the test after graduation and tended bar and worked as a personal trainer for a period of time. When my number was called, I couldn’t have been more thrilled. I showed up for work n a sweltering July day at the house day one in TriBeca and was told by the veterans to head to the kitchen and start washing dishes. So I did as I was told.

I get to the kitchen, and a blonde guy in a white tank top and a red bandanna is cooking and listening to Bob Dylan’s “Blood on the Tracks” very loudly. He is tall and very skinny. He has a tall glass of white wine in pint glass with ice cubes. I saw the bottle of wine. It still had a price tag on it. 175 bucks for whatever wine this guy was drinking. He turns around, sees me, and turns down the music.

“Ahh the new guy. Welcome mate,” he said with a deep voice in a British accent. He was striking looking. His right eye was blue and his left eye was brown. “I’m the cook here on Monday and Thursday nights. Don’t let these @#$%& give you too much of a hard time,” he said as he took a drag of his Marlboro Red.

I was talking to David Bowie.

That night he was making a spaghetti dish with lobster. He had a huge bag of live lobsters that was sitting on the counter. He boiled a huge pot of water and began dropping the lobsters in after he carefully killed each one with a big knife. He asked me to help him and I did. Here I was on my first day as a member of the FDNY, my lifelong dream…and what am I doing? I’m dropping lobsters into boiling water with David Bowie. A senior fireman passed through and saw us. His name was Flanagan.

“Davey is at it again. Hitting on the new guy. Kid – just give in and let him have his way with you. It won’t be that bad. Ask him about Wilt Chamberlain’s dick,” Flanagan said. David responded without looking at Flanagan.

“The last time Flanagan had intercourse Carter was president. And surely he paid for it. Probably in Coney Island or Atlantic City if I recall correctly,” David said as he dropped a lobster into the pot. Flanagan left the room, and we went back to the task at hand.

And so began my "friendship" with David Bowie. He lived in the neighborhood with his supermodel wife, Iman, and their daughter. The loved the banter, camaraderie and ball busting the house provided. I can tell you one thing…he was a hell of a cook. No expense was spared. A bag of 24 live lobsters is a good example. I recall watching him cook. The guy took his time and each detail was measured and calculated. It was also a performance for him, as was everything he did. Before each meal was served, he made us all hold hands. He would say a Buddhist style prayer where he’d say random stuff and thank the food and weird crap like that, and then he would lead all of us in the lord’s prayer. “Our father. Who art in heaven…”

To say the least, David was an interesting dude. He had alter egos (Ziggy Stardust, The Thin White Duke), was bisexual, had battled severe cocaine addiction and won, had an art collection that dwarfed most museums, in the 1970’s he was an freaking outspoken supporter of fascism…and survived it. He invented reinvention and was a master of social media and before such a thing existed. He showed up at my wedding in Rockaway and sang “Let’s Dance”, “Modern Love” and “Young Americans” with the band. That’s how cool he was. The man was nothing short of a genius and without a doubt the most fascinating person I’d ever met. And soon to be a hero of mine…

On 9/11, many members of my ladder were killed. I was on vacation that week. It was before we had kids and my wife and I had rented a house on LBI. I rushed back home and made my way to work. In those days and weeks that followed, David was around all the time. Cooking. Mopping floors. Doing laundry. Attending funerals. He slept right there in the house with us, and when he was awake, he was working. Doing whatever he thought needed to be done.

Those few weeks were a blur. People were scared. No one knew if another shoe was going to fall. David was a constant supporter and was encouraging all of us, and it really helped. He was asked to be the opening act for the concert for “The Concert for 9/11” which was being held at Madison Square Garden. David agreed to the gig.

“If you chaps can be such brave heroes each and every day, I can surely display some courage and do what I do best in honor and admiration of each of you,” David told us.

There were scary rumors at the time about the concert. Like it was going to be bombed. The first performer was going to be shot by a sniper. Stuff like that. David didn’t care.

“There is no way I’d rather go gents. I’ve battled extremism, hatred and prejudice my hole life. And I didn’t always win those battles. This battle I shall win and I can tell you I have no fear. How could I when I share your company?”

When David was cooking, he would sometimes sing instead of listen to music. One of our favorites to hear was “America” by Simon & Garfunkel. Hearing him sing it could make the toughest fireman cry. He told us he loved the song because it made him think about “all the unique souls who come to New York from their small towns to chase their dreams. Often you see them sitting on the ground at the dreaded Port Authority or Penn Station. A backpack behind them and journal in front of them, wondering what they next move will be. To me its nothing short of brilliant.”

When he was planning his act for the show, he sought our advice and we gave it to him. He told us he wanted the first song to be like an opening prayer. He wanted the angry, nervous air of tension and violence to be put aside. He would then say some brief words and launch into a song “for us”. He wanted to send a message to the world that nothing will stop us, there is no way we will lose, and we will beat our haters for ever and ever.

That night in Madison Square Garden changed my life forever. In uniform surrounded by my brothers and sisters…I think about it now and the experience was otherworldly. This might sound ridiculous but sometimes I wonder if it actually happened, if that makes any sense. During his opening version of “America”, you could have heard a pin drop. Everyone was crying as David sang his song about the city he loved and the country he had come to call home. He said his few words, mentioned us from the house, and then went into his song about us…“Heroes”. He built the tension, spirit and boldness with each verse. When that song was over, there was no stopping us. Ever. We were a like pack of 20 thousand wild dogs. He galvanized us. It was awesome. I haven’t been the same since. Neither has anyone who was there for it. After what we’d been through, it was just what the doctor ordered….and only one doctor could provide it…David F’ing Bowie. We were ready to go forward.

****Tade's note: Here is a link to Bowie's performance mentioned above as it originally appeared on TV I beg you all to watch it. Please take the time. His speech is at 4:20, at 6:49 i got chills and started crying and between the 7 and 8 minute mark our author can be seen flashing the peace sign.****

David kept coming to cook until his health began to fail him. Several months after his death, a lawyer for David and Iman contacted me and arranged to come to our home on Staten Island. She told us that David had left us a very valuable piece of art from his famous collection. She told us that her client thought we could use it to “help pay for college” which nearly made my wife pass the hell out. The painting was worth well over a million dollars. We’d just had our 3rd kid. Enough said. He did the same thing for each guy (8 of us) from the house who had survived 9/11 with the promise that we not tell the press about it.

And that, boys and girls, is my story. Was I “friends” with David Bowie? No. At least not more so than anyone else who knew him like I did. But he was by far the most interesting soul I’ve met, he changed my life, and I thought you’d like the story.

Some nights I can’t sleep. Memories from what I saw that day rear their ugly head. But I can make them go away when I hear David’s voice putting me at ease…

Let us be lovers…we’ll marry our fortunes together…

I’m empty and aching and I don’t know why…

Counting the cars on the New Jersey Turnpike…

They’ve all come to look for America…

All come to look for America…

All come to look for America…

Tade Reen | New York, New York, NY 10169

[www.dailymotion.com (https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4sweid)]

[armogi]

happy 73 mr bowie, wherever you are now.

[october_midnight]

Released today for his birthday, an unreleased version of The Man Who Sold The World.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp4UBmFmNUY

[Jon]

https://www.davidbowie.com/blog/2020/1/7/parlophone-to-issue-unreleased-bowie-tracks
DAVID BOWIE IS IT ANY WONDER? – STREAMING EP OF UNRELEASED & RARE MATERIAL

‘THE MAN WHO SOLD THE WORLD’ (CHANGESNOWBOWIE VERSION) FIRST OF SIX TRACKS TO BE RELEASED OVER SIX WEEKS

CHANGESNOWBOWIE LIMITED EDITION NINE TRACK LP/CD OF PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED MATERIAL TO BE ISSUED FOR RECORD STORE DAY 18th APRIL, 2020

8th January 2020 London


Parlophone Records is proud to announce DAVID BOWIE IS IT ANY WONDER? a six track EP of unreleased and rare tracks to be released over six weeks.


The first of these is a previously unreleased version of ‘The Man Who Sold The World’, released today as a streaming-only 1 track digital single in celebration of both David’s birthday and the 50th anniversary of the writing and recording of this classic. Five more songs will be released on a weekly basis from 17th January.


’THE MAN WHO SOLD THE WORLD’ (CHANGESNOWBOWIE VERSION) is taken from the 9-track session ChangesNowBowie, recorded for radio and broadcast by the BBC on David’s 50th birthday on 8th January, 1997.


The broadcast featured an interview with David by Mary Anne Hobbs interspersed with specially recorded birthday messages and questions from the likes of Scott Walker, Damon Albarn, Bono, Robert Smith and many more.


This mostly acoustic session was a stripped back affair featuring some of David’s favourites of his own compositions and was produced by Bowie himself, Reeves Gabrels and Mark Plati.


CHANGESNOWBOWIE was recorded and mixed at Looking Glass Studios in New York in November 1996 during rehearsals for David’s 50th birthday concert at Madison Square Garden. Gail Ann Dorsey (bass, vocals), Reeves Gabrels (guitars) and Mark Plati (keyboards and programming) accompanied David on the recording.


CHANGESNOWBOWIE will be released in limited quantities on LP and CD for Record Store Day on 18th April, 2020. The cover art for the album will features a portrait of David by renowned photographer Albert Watson, taken in New York in 1996. (See montage for cover)


More details about the album will be announced shortly.


DAVID BOWIE 'THE MAN WHO SOLD THE WORLD' (CHANGESNOWBOWIE) IS AVAILABLE NOW ON PARLOPHONE

DAVID BOWIE CHANGESNOWBOWIE RELEASED ON PARLOPHONE ON 18TH APRIL, 2020 FOR RECORD STORE DAY

ETA: Up on Tidal, Deezer, etc., in lossless quality.

[Substance242]

I was reading a book recently almost all day long with my Bowie playlist on, and you know which LP made me most often to look up from the book and focus on music, because it was so good it was distracting me? Earthling. (e.g. "Don't you let my letter get you down", so powerful) I think I probably mentioned something similar here before... still works.

[chuckrh]

I was reading a book recently almost all day long with my Bowie playlist on, and you know which LP made me most often to look up from the book and focus on music, because it was so good it was distracting me? Earthling. (e.g. "Don't you let my letter get you down", so powerful) I think I probably mentioned something similar here before... still works.

The band Bowie had in that era was killer. I know there other opinions about this but I'm a big fan of the Reeves Gabrels era. There was a lot experimentation & those records sound even better today.

[imail724]

Is there any definitive book on Bowie? I don't think he ever wrote an autobiography, but a highly recommended biography would be great.

[Prettybrokenspiral]

Outside will always be my favorite album of his. Not just because it was influenced by Trent or because of its association with the Dissonance tour, but because it's one bad-ass motherfucking album that's light years ahead of its time. Sure, the narrative and some of the characters get a little hokey, but I think that's kind of the point. Who's going to argue with a little Starman piss-taking on an album that has gems like The Motel, Strangers When We Meet, The Voyeur of Utter Destruction, Hallo Spaceboy, A Small Plot of Land, and on and on and on. Even the b-sides from that album are fucking choice..


If you're as big a stan of this album as I apparently am, track down a bootleg copy of the rejected Leon Suites that were originally submitted to the record label and eventually morphed into the Outside album as we know it today..

https://www.discogs.com/David-Bowie-Something-Really-Fishy-The-1Outside-Outtakes/release/2851158

https://www.discogs.com/David-Bowie-Leon-Is-Outside-The-Full-Length-Leon-Suites/release/9797092

[botley]

I'm excited to have the ChangesNowBowie album officially released, with all those semi-acoustic live performances from 1997. The complete radio broadcast with additional tracks is on YouTube (probably gonna get yanked soon)... but it'll be nice to have the whole thing on vinyl/CD for Record Store Day this year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-rd7-do2Vg

[Jon]

Is there any definitive book on Bowie? I don't think he ever wrote an autobiography, but a highly recommended biography would be great.

I'm looking for one as well. I was able to get a copy of David Bowie: An Illustrated Record (https://books.discogs.com/book/402764-bowie-an-illustrated-record) recently, and it made me long for an oversized coffee table book like The Beatles Anthology.

As far as the RSD release(s), is there going to end up being 6 new releases?

[frankie teardrop]

Not just because it was influenced by Trent

less NIN, much more inspired by The Young Gods and Scott Walker (songs like "The Motel").

speaking of Walker, his birthday message to Bowie from that broadcast still gives me chills, especially now that both of them are gone. cycle of love and inspiration and influence between them forever and ever.

[katara]

Is Bowie's lowercase 'db' logo intended to look like a cock and balls?

I've wondered this for the longest time.

[ickyvicky]

Which came first “The Perfect Drug” or “Little Wonder”?

[fillow]

Which came first “The Perfect Drug” or “Little Wonder”?
LW by only a month or so, and both recorded around the same time in Fall 1996. But they both were obviously influenced by a dnb scene in general rather than by each other.

[Jon]

If you're as big a stan of this album as I apparently am, track down a bootleg copy of the rejected Leon Suites that were originally submitted to the record label and eventually morphed into the Outside album as we know it today..

https://www.discogs.com/David-Bowie-Something-Really-Fishy-The-1Outside-Outtakes/release/2851158

https://www.discogs.com/David-Bowie-Leon-Is-Outside-The-Full-Length-Leon-Suites/release/9797092

All of those bootlegs, and more importantly, the sources for them are available for free at bowiestation.

[piggy]

Is there any definitive book on Bowie? I don't think he ever wrote an autobiography, but a highly recommended biography would be great.
I looked into this for myself and I haven't read one yet, but I think the most definitive one for a long time has been Strange Fascination by David Buckley. A new update was published in 2017. I've also heard good things about David Bowie: A Life by Dylan Jones, which is an exhaustive oral history. Bowie had planned on writing an autobiography, too. Still burns me up that he didn't.

[Shadaloo]

I'm not sure if A Life is an alternate title for An Oral History by Dylan Jones - Amazon seems to say it is - but I read the latter, and I strongly recommend if so. It was highly engrossing, and particularly entertaining in how some interviews offer contradictory facts, which shows just how different he appeared to everyone who met him. It was lovely. :)

[Prettybrokenspiral]

All of those bootlegs, and more importantly, the sources for them are available for free at bowiestation.

Yea, but I feel weird about downloading his work for free like that. I'd much rather have a tangible physical product anyway..

[BRoswell]

Yea, but I feel weird about downloading his work for free like that.

Buying a bootleg from someone off Discogs isn't any better though.

[Prettybrokenspiral]

Buying a bootleg from someone off Discogs isn't any better though.

Well, at least I’m not on here bitching every week about how there’s never any digital format option or cutting up the Watchmen soundtrack because I think I’m an ace bedroom engineer sound guy like some people around here..

You spend your time the way you want to, I’ll spend my money the way I want to..

[BRoswell]

Well, at least I’m not on here bitching every week about how there’s never any digital format option or cutting up the Watchmen soundtrack because I think I’m an ace bedroom engineer sound guy like some people around here..

Ow, my feelings...


You spend your time the way you want to, I’ll spend my money the way I want to..

Hey, if you want to waste money on something you could have for free, go nuts.

[katara]

This conversation is not relevant to the topic. Take it somewhere more suitable, like the Manson thread.

Back to Bowie, I completely understand why The Leon Suites were rejected by the record company. There are no 'songs' there. No hits. It wouldn't have sold.

[r_z]

I have a feeling the Bowie estate is kinda shying away from rereleasing the 90s stuff? Like... Finally the release something and it's a "stripped down" mostly acoustic live (greatest hits) thing.

[botley]

I have a feeling the Bowie estate is kinda shying away from rereleasing the 90s stuff? Like... Finally the release something and it's a "stripped down" mostly acoustic live (greatest hits) thing.

There's probably a LOT more to come this year.

[Prettybrokenspiral]

This conversation is not relevant to the topic. Take it somewhere more suitable, like the Manson thread.

Back to Bowie, I completely understand why The Leon Suites were rejected by the record company. There are no 'songs' there. No hits. It wouldn't have sold.

Oh, I completely agree. And I was perfectly happy to stay on topic until racist troll Roswell decided to try and pick yet another fight with someone after he got told by a mod to stop just a week or two ago. The dude hardly, if ever, posts anything relevant on this board and continuously makes an ass of himself..

But yea, back on topic, there are three or four different versions of the Leon Suites compiled out there. I believe there’s even a box set (again, a bootleg) that tries to round them all up to make some sense of what has been released from those sessions. Definitely uncommercial, but also a fascinating prelude to an album that is still ahead of its time..

[katara]

But yea, back on topic, there are three or four different versions of the Leon Suites compiled out there. I believe there’s even a box set (again, a bootleg) that tries to round them all up to make some sense of what has been released from those sessions. Definitely uncommercial, but also a fascinating prelude to an album that is still ahead of its time..
For me, Outside is easier to digest. That said, Leon works better as a concept album. I wish Trent had done something like this with Year Zero; some kind of companion piece that goes heavy on lore.

Just discovered that the Showgirls soundtrack had an early version of I'm Afraid of Americans produced by Eno during the Outside sessions. Probably common knowledge, although it's new to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrtH3vcTwVg

[Shadaloo]

Let's leave the Manson thread alone. It's been through enough and I want us to try and be big boys there.

That said, crossing my fingers for no weird screwups on whatever forthcoming box we're gonna get. I was all set to buy the New Career In A New Town set and then I hear the mastering is all fiddle faddle foo and there are audio artifacts on Heroes.

[botley]

Is there any definitive book on Bowie? I don't think he ever wrote an autobiography, but a highly recommended biography would be great.
Vogue just posted a list of 15 (https://www.vogue.com/slideshow/best-books-about-david-bowie/amp).

[Jon]

Let's leave the Manson thread alone. It's been through enough and I want us to try and be big boys there.

That said, crossing my fingers for no weird screwups on whatever forthcoming box we're gonna get. I was all set to buy the New Career In A New Town set and then I hear tge mastering is all fiddle faddle foo and there are audio artifacts on Heroes.

If you do end up getting the box set at one point, Warner should still honor a replacement for "Heroes". I was able to get one back in August.

Counterfeits are rampant for the CD version. Make sure your discs are gold.

[october_midnight]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dfhl865KoTc&feature=emb_title

[onthewall2983]

Speaking of books, one on Stevie Ray Vaughan came out last year and it goes a little deep into the mess surrounding the potential involvement he had with the Let's Dance tour and whether not he and his band Double Trouble could be the opening act. Long story short it was a mess of logistics and management making things difficult for both sides, with the image of Bowie miming SRV's guitar parts on the video for "Let's Dance" perceived as an insult. In the book it's said Stevie was upset with the video, but would stop short of that by saying up front in interviews he would not be coaxed into saying anything bad about Bowie. For his part, Bowie would write some of the liner notes for a DVD of Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble's performances at the Montreux Jazz Festival where he discovered Vaughan in in 1982. He said that just before Vaughan's tragic death in 1990, the two crossed paths on the road and made amends towards each other.

[ChipRock]

Here because I'm cross. Only just heard about I Can't Read '97. Checking the blurb - wow okay, an alternate recording removed from Earthling at the last minute? Well this will be more interesting than TMWSTW... But no. Just another stripped down acoustic version. Does anyone believe this version was going to be on Earthling? I mean, maybe stick it on a b-side I guess?
Basically - as per above - I'm *all* about hearing unreleased 90s era material.
And, as I'm here, Outside Outtakes / Leon Suite / Whatever is genius. I get why it wasn't released as it was at the time, but to be honest I'd rather listen to that version all day. 'You're all number one packet sniffers'. Absolutely goddamn right. I read somewhere that there was more than three suites originally - I'd love to hear the others if they do exist somewhere. Do we know if there was more recorded at the New York sessions? That could be good too.

[frankie teardrop]

Does anyone believe this version was going to be on Earthling? I mean, maybe stick it on a b-side I guess?

it was released on the ice storm soundtrack, but i never heard about it being slated for earthling otherwise... it's a great song in either incarnation.

[r_z]

I believe this '97 version differs from the Ice Storm version that got released as a single.

[tricil]

That said, Stay ‘97 released today surprisingly kicks ass.

I hope they’ll reissue TMWSTW ‘95 to streaming. It’s a studio version of the version they played on the Outside tour and IMO better than the Changesnowbowie version. It came out on the Strangers When We Meet single.

[r_z]

They probably won't since that version technically is not unreleased. But I agree, it's a great rendition.

[Jon]

I believe this '97 version differs from the Ice Storm version that got released as a single.

Yep, and the new single version differs from the video version. The Ice Storm version is closer to the new single version, but features the changes talked about in the description for the new video:

An alternative version, featuring minor chords and a darker sound for the chorus, was recorded for Ang Lee’s film The Ice Storm. The full length version appeared on a single in 1998, while an edit featured on the film’s soundtrack album in 1997, both released by VelVel Records.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBut56iOSE4

[tricil]

They probably won't since that version technically is not unreleased. But I agree, it's a great rendition.

I expect to see it in the 90’s box set (next year?) on Re:Call 5

[botley]

I like "I Can't Read" in all its different incarnations, but the 1999 hours... live band arrangement has a special place in my heart. Fast-forward to 36:21 in this stunning performance (with Page Hamilton on lead guitar!) to hear how that sounded. Note the pin-drop quiet after that first chorus...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av1IYh5R1tU

The VH1 Storytellers performance is where I encountered this arrangement for the first time (which was just before Reeves Gabrels left the band "to make his own album", as Bowie stresses in the intros from that gig above). Good stuff! Apart from the Kit-Kat webcast gig in New York, I don't think there have been any official releases dating from this particular lineup of his band, which was just before they got Earl Slick back to do Glastonbury etc. in 2000. There's a pro-shot video from the Astoria in London but they didn't play "ICR" at that gig :(

[tricil]

Two things give me hope about Is It Any Wonder?

1.⁠It’s all 90’s so far.
2.⁠Two out of six are revived Tin Machine tracks. (Baby Universal ‘97 is the latest as of this post)

[r_z]

Don't you love how each week the tracklist of Earthling is growing and growing?

[tricil]

Don't you love how each week the tracklist of Earthling is growing and growing?

That too!

[r_z]

An unreleased (almost entirely) instrumental song off the Earthling sessions got released today:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF20FC4SZhQ

[neorev]

An unreleased (almost entirely) instrumental song off the Earthling sessions got released today:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF20FC4SZhQ

Love it! Give me more Earthling rarities.

[tricil]

Love it! Give me more Earthling rarities.

So far that’s what the is it any wonder set is!

I *wonder* what the surprise is next week.

I guess either:

A. Purchasable High Res release (possibly Vinyl) of Is it Any Wonder?

B. 90’s boxset announcement, of which the is it any wonder EP is forming a great teaser.

[seasonsinthesky]

So far that’s what the is it any wonder set is!

I *wonder* what the surprise is next week.

I guess either:

A. Purchasable High Res release (possibly Vinyl) of Is it Any Wonder?

B. 90’s boxset announcement, of which the is it any wonder EP is forming a great teaser.

REALLY hoping the EP is titled this because it will include the song of the same name (a.k.a. Funhouse). Been wanting that in good quality for a long time now – BowieNet wasn't exactly able to deliver great sounding files.

And yeah, get this next box set announced ffs. If it has Outside with no Leon I'll not be participating, though.

[tricil]

REALLY hoping the EP is titled this because it will include the song of the same name (a.k.a. Funhouse). Been wanting that in good quality for a long time now – BowieNet wasn't exactly able to deliver great sounding files.

And yeah, get this next box set announced ffs. If it has Outside with no Leon I'll not be participating, though.

My Dream of all Dreams is for them to release the Outside tour and have NIN release a complimentary release of their set (the collaborations would probably be on Bowie’s album)

[tricil]

Well it looks like we’re getting the 1995 version of TMWSTW after all and sort of Fun: https://www.davidbowie.com/blog/2020/2/13/is-it-any-wonder-ep-streaming-and-physical

[fillow]

We've had already TMWSTW from one of the Outside singles. I'd rather they released the 1997 updated version of it, which included additional d'n'b beats on top.

[ChipRock]

Okay... so after my grump about I Can't Read '97 I'm sufficiently cheered by the latest Is It Any Wonder? material. Baby Universal '97, Nuts and Stay '97 are all a bit more like it! I've not heard the Clownboy mixes of Fun, but knowing Danny Saber is on the mix then I'll assume it is suitably electronic.
As for TMWSTW '95 - it is a great recording and I guess just about rare enough to warrant inclusion. Might actually be tempted to pick up a CD for the first time in like forever. I do wonder what the motivation is for doing a release like this though... have they given up with the boxsets now? I'm not a collector so don't bother buying them, but I'm hoping for a lot more 90s material to appear digitally... my collection is missing a few edits and mixes from the Earthling era which I hoped would appear on a Re:call disc. I'd also be very keen on some Earthling era live material... an official recording of O Superman would make my decade.

[tricil]

Is there any where to buy this in FLAC? Debating ordering the CD (ha) just to get lossless files.

Edit: well I ordered the CD.

[seasonsinthesky]

I want lossless too, but no preorders for it at the usual haunts. I suspect it'll show up at HDtracks on release day. Nabbed the LP, though, and happy it doesn't have the ChangesNowBowie track.

[chuckrh]

Both record store day releases are going to be available on CD. Nice!

[october_midnight]

I know, I know...it's a picture disc, but I'm 100% getting this when it drops next month. (https://www.davidbowie.com/blog/2020/3/12/space-oddity-1972-picture-disc-due-next-month)

I mean come on...

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5a70fa14e45a7c7dd2fadad0/1584060311354-59WI7EULU6R018LWLGXK/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kJK4Mm1kch8SFO9ZNkN1NT97gQa3H7 8H3Y0txjaiv_0fDoOvxcdMmMKkDsyUqMSsMWxHk725yiiHCCLf rh8O1z5QHyNOqBUUEtDDsRWrJLTmFk_H6M1tkD9NpL7mXac0oV SXdFfjxR5AjcLwGSebOiGBsFzzcw3xKxvyC_6CFFG_/pic_disc_mont_v3_flat_1080sq.jpg?format=1000w

[botley]

^ While picture discs are rarely what I'm after (sound quality usually leaves a lot to be desired)... I'm just glad they're not reissuing the horrendous 2015 remaster from the Five Years box set anymore with all the digital glitches, and have instead reverted to the 40th Anniversary one that EMI did for the original mixes.

I'm guessing the album master is too damaged to do any more transfers, which is a shame.

[tricil]

^ While picture discs are rarely what I'm after (sound quality usually leaves a lot to be desired)... I'm just glad they're not reissuing the horrendous 2015 remaster from the Five Years box set anymore with all the digital glitches, and have instead reverted to the 40th Anniversary one that EMI did for the original mixes.

I'm guessing the album master is too damaged to do any more transfers, which is a shame.

I was wondering about this. The Conversation Piece boxset from last year also uses the 2009 master

[fillow]

I was wondering about this. The Conversation Piece boxset from last year also uses the 2009 master
Do you mean the single of the whole album?
Because Conversation Piece includes all-new 2019 remix of the album and it sounds super different, with Bowie's vocals much deeper in the mix but all the instruments brought up.

[BenAkenobi]

"2019 mix" uses some different takes of almost every song, too. Haven't read any media about it, is the consensus "yay" or "nay"?

[Lerxto]

"2019 mix" uses some different takes of almost every song, too. Haven't read any media about it, is the consensus "yay" or "nay"?
I don't know about the media, but the 2019 mix was a big yay for me.

[tricil]

Do you mean the single of the whole album?
Because Conversation Piece includes all-new 2019 remix of the album and it sounds super different, with Bowie's vocals much deeper in the mix but all the instruments brought up.

The conversation piece box set includes the entire 2009 mastered version of the album as well as the 2019 Visconti mix.

[Jon]

Not sure if this was shared at the time. My headphones just got a 360 audio update and this was what they linked me along with the Space Oddity album:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIaHKN2eNQg

https://i.imgur.com/KAhjQRt.png

[tricil]

Not sure if this was shared at the time. My headphones just got a 360 audio update and this was what they linked me along with the Space Oddity album:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIaHKN2eNQg

https://i.imgur.com/KAhjQRt.png

That’s so weird to me. It’s just left and right speakers, right?

This and “surround headphones” seem like audio snake oil.

That said, let me know how it is.

[Jon]

That’s so weird to me. It’s just left and right speakers, right?

This and “surround headphones” seem like audio snake oil.

That said, let me know how it is.

This is probably going to sound silly, but a fair comparison would be Freddie Mercury vocals. Certain sound elements seem to come from everywhere. Instead of the vocals feeling "up-front" they feel "on-top". From the jump, you're getting an audio experience that simulates more expensive headphones with a wider soundstage. The space gives the illusion that you're listening to the recording live, as it's being recorded. I've had great results with jazz and ambient music, while rock has been a mixed bag.

It's definitely snake oil of some kind.

[eversonpoe]

That’s so weird to me. It’s just left and right speakers, right?

This and “surround headphones” seem like audio snake oil.

That said, let me know how it is.

you can use phasing and certain EQ methods to give sound a more thee-dimensional feel. sometimes when i'm mixing, especially on headphones, if i EQ something a particular way, it seems to sit below the other instruments, or behind my ears. i always try to make it so the vocals feel like they're coming either from far away, up in a distant cave (using a shit ton of reverb), or i'm literally screaming in your face (or there's two of me, one screaming on each side of your head). now, applying that to music that has already been mixed without those intentions? that's why Jon is having better luck with things like jazz, because jazz is usually mixed with a lot of separation between the instruments. when that's the case, it becomes easier to spatially orient them post-mixing.

[Reznor2112]

Does anyone know where I can find a download of the most recent release of NIN/Bowie Back In Anger bootleg? If I remember correctly, the recent bootleg vinyl releases were a better version than the initial soundboard recording but I could be wrong. If anyone is willing to share a link to the best quality version of the show (both sets) that would be amazing -- I believe it is the 10/11/95 MO show.

[botley]

Does anyone know where I can find a download of the most recent release of NIN/Bowie Back In Anger bootleg? If I remember correctly, the recent bootleg vinyl releases were a better version than the initial soundboard recording but I could be wrong. If anyone is willing to share a link to the best quality version of the show (both sets) that would be amazing -- I believe it is the 10/11/95 MO show.
Sign up for bowiestation.com and grab it here (https://www.bowiestation.com/torrents-details.php?id=1844) (also includes Prick's opening set!). Then grab everything else!

[armogi]

Does anyone know where I can find a download of the most recent release of NIN/Bowie Back In Anger bootleg? If I remember correctly, the recent bootleg vinyl releases were a better version than the initial soundboard recording but I could be wrong. If anyone is willing to share a link to the best quality version of the show (both sets) that would be amazing -- I believe it is the 10/11/95 MO show.

I bought that silver Cd set, it's cheap on ebay. it's not so great however, looks mp3 sourced + they managed the fuck up the end by switching the order of the last two songs + some of the banter is duplicated too. I am assuming the live hate boot remains the best option, i downloaded that many years ago and I think it's better overall.

[botley]

I bought that silver Cd set, it's cheap on ebay. it's not so great however, looks mp3 sourced + they managed the fuck up the end by switching the order of the last two songs + some of the banter is duplicated too. I am assuming the live hate boot remains the best option, i downloaded that many years ago and I think it's better overall.

Nah, the source I linked is a bit perfect transfer from the master DAT.

[armogi]

Nah, the source I linked is a bit perfect transfer from the master DAT.

sorry i'm not on bowiestation to check your link, is that the source you are refering to? Source: Mono SBD > XLR > DBX 160XT (leveling) > Sony TCD-D8 > TDK DC4-90 (16/48) 450mb.

[botley]

sorry i'm not on bowiestation to check your link, is that the source you are refering to? Source: Mono SBD > XLR > DBX 160XT (leveling) > Sony TCD-D8 > TDK DC4-90 (16/48) 450mb.
Yes and the Bowiestation transfer is a bit-for-bit digital rip of that source (with some editing/leveling in the digital realm). I think Live Hate has another step to analogue and back again in the lineage.

[tricil]

It’s also on ninlive

[botley]

It’s also on ninlive
Just NIN/TR's portion.

[tricil]

Just NIN/TR's portion.

Both were I thought. Never mind!

[piggy]

I just looked at what's on ninlive and it says "Complete with David Bowie's set as well."
http://ninlive.com/shows/1995/19951011.html

[botley]

I just looked at what's on ninlive and it says "Complete with David Bowie's set as well."
http://ninlive.com/shows/1995/19951011.html

That's not accurate; at least not for the link actually provided.

People — just get a torrent client and go to Bowiestation.

[piggy]

The download on ninlive has been updated with all the Bowie tracks. It's now the complete show in ideal quality.

[Lerxto]

Anybody here bought the CD version of Is It Any Wonder?
I bought the vinyl and there's no lossless digital version available.
I'd really appreciate if someone had a lossless rip of the CD.

[chuckrh]

Has anyone noticed the load of fantastic Bowie stuff dropping on a certain site (stringed instruments 101)? I haven't seen a lot of these before. I don't do torrents, so I may have missed them in that capacity. I saw a lot of shows in the Heathen/Reality years. That band was so great & Bowie was so friendly & at ease. The set lists were great too. I also got the first show of the "farewell to the hits" tour in vancouver. i drove up to bc for it. fantastic show & a lot longer than a lot of shows on that tour. & with adrian belew at his finest. there's some great ones from the reeves gabrels years, too. i got an excellent tape from the "outside" tour show i saw. got the nin part from ninlive & now have the bowie part. that show was just wild. even though it was largely more obscure & new stuff it was amazing. i took the evil ex gf & she complained about the lack of hits haha. sadly, sign of things to come. live & learn!

[ChipRock]

Did anyone see the Nicholas Pegg emoji quiz? Fun, but not an easy one!
https://twitter.com/NicholasPegg/status/1247581977290649605/photo/1

[eversonpoe]

Did anyone see the Nicholas Pegg emoji quiz? Fun, but not an easy one!
https://twitter.com/NicholasPegg/status/1247581977290649605/photo/1

i think "chant of the ever-circling skeletal family" is the funniest one

[botley]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q96Tuk1q9L8

[armogi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQT6ArldgwM

looks like this standalone single came out too and changtesnowbowie is still coming out friday digitally.

[botley]

^ Yes, just hoping they don't reissue the rest of Liveandwell.com too soon before I can find a sucker collector to buy my CD copy for $800...

[october_midnight]

First clip from the biopic movie 'Stardust' is online. Will be weird that the movie has no actual Bowie music in it as his family didn't give their blessing, but it is what it is.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=23&v=s5xynpc_7hA&feature=emb_t itle

[botley]

First clip from the biopic movie 'Stardust' is online. Will be weird that the movie has no actual Bowie music in it as his family didn't give their blessing, but it is what it is.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=23&v=s5xynpc_7hA&feature=emb_t itle

Oh my fucking CHRIST that looks bad. "Hell yeah, I do!"

[hellospaceboy]

Did anyone see the Nicholas Pegg emoji quiz? Fun, but not an easy one!
https://twitter.com/NicholasPegg/status/1247581977290649605/photo/1

Holy shit, I only got 30 and even that took a lot of brainmushing! It was fun, will look at it again in the morning...

[talkingnothing]

^ Yes, just hoping they don't reissue the rest of Liveandwell.com too soon before I can find a sucker collector to buy my CD copy for $800...

i hope you found that sucker... er.. collector

[botley]

i hope you found that sucker... er.. collector
Not yet, but looks like a CD reissue is still yet to be announced.

[armogi]

Not yet, but looks like a CD reissue is still yet to be announced.

well... https://www.davidbowie.com/blog/2020/5/16/liveandwellcom-is-streaming-now
and I saw it on a somewhat illegal website where it's listed as 2020 remaster, not sure if that's the case but that would make sense if it's reissued

[chuckrh]

well... https://www.davidbowie.com/blog/2020/5/16/liveandwellcom-is-streaming-now
and I saw it on a somewhat illegal website where it's listed as 2020 remaster, not sure if that's the case but that would make sense if it's reissued


It has 2 more songs now also

[botley]

It has 2 more songs now also

Sounds like this is a different version of "Hearts Filthy Lesson", as well. They're listing it as Phoenix Festival '96 and that's supposed to be the gig the CD version used as well, but they don't sound the same to me.

[r_z]

So I came across this little nugget that certainly was new to me, so I'd thought I share it with my fellow ETS'ers for the chance it might be news to others. It's a quote by musician Bill Nelson, who - starting in the 70s - recorded a LOT of albums as a solo artist over the years and produced a few for others (Numan, for example). In '96 he released a heavily D'n'B influenced album, called "After the Satellite Sings". Here's the quote:

"The album was an attempt to fuse rock and pop songwriting with the then cutting-edge rhythms of 'drum n' bass'. The album apparently inspired and influenced David Bowie's later 'Earthling' album, (according to then Bowie collaborator and guitarist Reeves Gabrels)."

He collaborated with Reeves Gabrels on an instrumental album, so that might be where he picked that up. The album is fantastic, Nelson is a great guitarist and here are a few songs from it for you to judge for yourself on how it might have influenced Bowie on "Earthling":


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7s9d_SCXy0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzKaSUIwi-U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cWP-ImeAXM

[frankie teardrop]

i've never listened to this^ bill nelson album but i'm familiar and a fan of his synth pop/new wave records from the 80s. looks like i should dig a little deeper into the 90s work!

[r_z]

Yeah, his 80s stuff is where I started, too! The Love That Whirls probably being my favorite album of his from that period. It's a direction I wish Bowie would have gone in the 80s...

I recommend checking out Atom Shop from 1998! I feel Nelson had a creative peak there, combining samples from songs and TV shows of the 50s with all kinds of musical styles ranging from D'n'B to Jazz to psychodelic Pop while maintaining a kind of futuristic theme throughout.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIWk5hA_5cc

Also, he put out a collection of unreleased songs from those sessions called Noise Candy. It's like 120(!) songs deep.

[ChipRock]

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/may/26/david-bowie-adele-and-beyonce-bbc-unveil-glastonbury-coverage

Just seen this today - the BBC will be airing classic Glastonbury shows over a weekend at the end of June, and this includes the 2000 Bowie set in full.
I have to admit I didn't pick up the DVD, so glad it will be getting a showing.

[fillow]

No NIN? Boo

[tricil]

I have good news and terrible news.


The good news is there’s a brand new live recording from The Outside Tour in 1995: https://www.davidbowie.com/blog/2020/6/25/ouvrez-le-chien-streaming-next-week

The bad news? The NIN portion is missing

[botley]

Hmm, in addition it seems they performed "A Small Plot of Land" that night, but it's also missing from the track-list:

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/david-bowie/1995/coca-cola-starplex-amphitheatre-dallas-tx-53d5d371.html

Bowie is the listed producer, so I guess it's possible he picked the running order while he was still around.

[tricil]

The NIN set from that night was one of the few times they ever played Closer to God live as well.

[tricil]

Fuck. And A Small Plot of Land is my favourite Bowie song. Could at least have included the beginning of Bowie's set!

And Under Pressure was already in the setlist, i find it’s bonus track inclusion to be superfluous, even if it was an old B-Side.

[BRoswell]

I imagine NIN's set wasn't included because of rights issues, and because they probably want to keep the focus on Bowie.

[seasonsinthesky]

I'm assuming the tape ran out or something. Doesn't make sense to excise the end of the show if they have it.

Would have been nice if the NIN camp had also released a press statement about a live album from this show...

[tricil]

I'm assuming the tape ran out or something. Doesn't make sense to excise the end of the show if they have it.

Would have been nice if the NIN camp had also released a press statement about a live album from this show...

The NIN portion was at the beginning of the show, though.

The end of the show is completely intact, save for a small plot of land which is missing.

[r_z]

Speaking of that tour... are there any soundboard recordings?

[tricil]

Speaking of that tour... are there any soundboard recordings?

Enjoy! https://ninlive.com/shows/1995/19951011.html

[chuckrh]

Speaking of that tour... are there any soundboard recordings?

Source 2 here has the complete NIN & Bowie sets. It's not soundboard but is an excellent recording. & you do get "A Small Plot of Land". I saw the tour a few days after this in Tacoma. Still 1 of the best shows I've ever seen.

https://ninlive.com/shows/1995/19951021.html

PS: Reeves Gabrels is unreal good on the tape!

[chuckrh]

Outside will always be my favorite Bowie album.

[braces for hurled tomatoes]

I don't think I'd go quite that far but it's high up on the list for me. As stated above, the tour was amazing at least in the US. & I saw Bowie a real lot starting with the Serious Moonlight tour. Outside has aged real well. As with a lot of Bowie, he was way ahead of the rest of us.

[r_z]

Outside is my favorite album of his, too, actually.

[elevenism]

Outside will always be my favorite Bowie album.

[braces for hurled tomatoes]definitely right there with you. I think Heathen and Low tie for second.

[chuckrh]

What the fuck is up with so many Outside recordings starting part-way into Terrible Lie? Did they just walk out on stage and start playing with no intro whatsoever?

I think they did actually if memory serves. Also, there are plenty of tapes where the tapers didn't start recording until Subterraneans. The tapers weren't hip to NIN, at least the older ones. For instance, JEMS did an excellent tape of Bowie in Tacoma but they didn't record the NIN set. That's why I like the Mt View show I mentioned earlier. It's got the whole thing. It's funny because there were plenty of shows where people left after NIN finished. I went with the evil ex & she whined the whole show about Bowie not playing the hits. It was a sign of things to come, haha.

[ninlive]

For anyone interested, you can find a partial recording of NIN's set from the Dallas show here: https://ninlive.com/shows/1995/19951013.html

NIN's full setlist for that night is unconfirmed. Setlist.fm (https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/nine-inch-nails/1995/coca-cola-starplex-amphitheatre-dallas-tx-43d7a393.html) shows that both Piggy (NCSMN) and Closer To God were played. However, ninlive only shows the Piggy remix.
@ninlive (https://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=1141), can you shed any light on this?

Probably just a typo on my part. Most of the unconfirmed setlists were copied from Gladcarrot’s old site and other places on the internet. I am always hoping to confirm them with recordings. Hence why most shows do not have pages unless they have tapes.

Im trying to go back and upload Bowie’s sets as well for that tour. Just because it was a seamless performance, one into another. Plus, both Bowie and NIN collectors usually keep only one or the other sets. Which we’ve lost sets because of that. I want to change that.

[tricil]

I think this tour was one of the first tours TR started the whole “stage ambush” thing that he continued with Somewhat Damaged years later and kicked off the show while the house lights were still on.

[fillow]

What the fuck is up with so many Outside recordings starting part-way into Terrible Lie? Did they just walk out on stage and start playing with no intro whatsoever?

It's because they started the song like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftJi7T7Ng5w

No usual intro samples, just stick countdown and DADADADA Hey god! Of course tapers would be caught off guard. And the was no internet to warn other tapers beforehand.

[ninlive]

Lol yes. What fillow said.

2006... it was nice to know going into the show it would start with the house lights on. I’d be pissed to have an incomplete tape.

[tricil]

It's because they started the song like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftJi7T7Ng5w

No usual intro samples, just stick countdown and DADADADA Hey god! Of course tapers would be caught off guard. And the was no internet to warn other tapers beforehand.

What’s interesting about this is they reprised this edit for the AATCHB live CD even though all the shows started with New Flesh / Pinion and had full Terrible Lie intro (even the DVD did)

[Alpha 60]

I'm sure someone probably mentioned it, but I did not see it. Music On Vinyl is releasing Tin Machine II. Silver vinyl.

[KrakenWakes]

What the fuck is up with so many Outside recordings starting part-way into Terrible Lie? Did they just walk out on stage and start playing with no intro whatsoever?

Yeah, the house lights were on (or it was still a bit sunny out if I remember). No band members on stage. Trent just walks out from the center of the stage from behind a curtain, walks right up to the microphone (maybe 10-15 steps) without pausing and screams "Hey God!" - right into Terrible Lie. I was right up front, but some of my friends had their back to the stage and missed the surprise entrance.

[wizfan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pdSCfxboow

[botley]

^ Bahaha! Mike Garson is in pretty good form, there (even busts out a little bit of "Trust in the Law" from Watchmen at 26:00)!

[ickyvicky]

G-Eazy covering "Lazarus"


https://youtu.be/igxj6l_J6PY

[botley]

^Gross

Ouvrez le Chien is already 'out there' thanks to streaming sites existing in the part of the world where it's Friday already. Sounding pretty fucking great! Much better than the bootlegs from this tour. If only NIN's part of the set had been mixed like this, too...

[tricil]

^Gross

Ouvrez le Chien is already 'out there' thanks to streaming sites existing in the part of the world where it's Friday already. Sounding pretty fucking great! Much better than the bootlegs from this tour. If only NIN's part of the set had been mixed like this, too...

It’s so good.

[BRoswell]

G-Eazy covering "Lazarus"

Way to turn a great song into something preppy teens can make sad faces to on Instagram.

[chuckrh]

Ouvrez le Chien is simply awesome! Pity that the NIN material (with & without Bowie) wasn't included. In reality, it was 1 long set. Marilyn Manson was the opening act here but I missed them due to horrible traffic on a work night. The venue is notorious for that. I saw all of the main event though. Reeves Gabrels was just stellar on that tour. The duet version of "Hurt" is an all time fave.

[tricil]

Ouvrez le Chien is simply awesome! Pity that the NIN material (with & without Bowie) wasn't included. In reality, it was 1 long set. Marilyn Manson was the opening act here but I missed them due to horrible traffic on a work night. The venue is notorious for that. I saw all of the main event though. Reeves Gabrels was just stellar on that tour. The duet version of "Hurt" is an all time fave.

Pretty sure it was Prick and not Manson who opened this run of shows.

[chuckrh]

Pretty sure it was Prick and not Manson who opened this run of shows.

I could've swore it was MM but I could be wrong. Anyway, I missed that part.

[botley]

And Under Pressure was already in the setlist, i find it’s bonus track inclusion to be superfluous, even if it was an old B-Side.
Unfortunately the main set's version of "Under Pressure" is marred by mic issues afflicting Gail Ann's amazing co-lead vocal, so it's good to have the B-side version here as a bonus. Just wish this whole thing was available on CD! Burning my own, for now...

[talkingnothing]

Just wish this whole thing was available on CD! Burning my own, for now...
I sure hope they move forward with the box sets they have been doing and include this. Flawed though they are (missing the stuff on the 30th anniversary Diamond Dogs extra disc for example), I have enjoyed them. I imagine they'd only need to do 2 more to wrap up the collection, Tin Machine through Earthling and hours through Blackstar. Many of us around here have a special attachment to the outside/earthling era i would think.

[tricil]

I sure hope they move forward with the box sets they have been doing and include this. Flawed though they are (missing the stuff on the 30th anniversary Diamond Dogs extra disc for example), I have enjoyed them. I imagine they'd only need to do 2 more to wrap up the collection, Tin Machine through Earthling and hours through Blackstar. Many of us around here have a special attachment to the outside/earthling era i would think.

I think that’s why these live sets are streaming only for now, could easily see the next chapters box set with all four of the “new” 2020 releases

[chuckrh]

I sure hope they move forward with the box sets they have been doing and include this. Flawed though they are (missing the stuff on the 30th anniversary Diamond Dogs extra disc for example), I have enjoyed them. I imagine they'd only need to do 2 more to wrap up the collection, Tin Machine through Earthling and hours through Blackstar. Many of us around here have a special attachment to the outside/earthling era i would think.

I'm finding a growing fondness for "Hours" with each passing year.

[october_midnight]

Hours is great. Thursday's Child remains one of my top Bowie songs.

[r_z]

95 to 03 is a criminally underrated Bowie era imo. Even though it's not his most successfull or popular, it's probably my favorite.

[aleywwu]

I could've swore it was MM but I could be wrong. Anyway, I missed that part.

I was at the Tacoma show! Prick opened. I was 15 and lived in Lynden, WA up by the Canadian border. My mom went with me (she had seats, I was on the floor). It was my first time seeing NIN and only time seeing Bowie. Such a great show.

[seasonsinthesky]

The NIN portion was at the beginning of the show, though.

The end of the show is completely intact, save for a small plot of land which is missing.

I was referring to A Small Plot of Land, but you're right, it wouldn't make sense that they'd have the songs after it if the tape had run out. So they probably left Plot off purposely, either because it was decided at the time it was mixed, or recently when they decided to put this out with the two bonus tracks and wanted it all to fit on one CD. Why not drop Under Pressure (the Dallas one), since Gail Ann Dorsey is muted for the first part anyway? Sad.

Maybe they'll issue it on vinyl with Plot reinstated.

[tricil]

I was referring to A Small Plot of Land, but you're right, it wouldn't make sense that they'd have the songs after it if the tape had run out. So they probably left Plot off purposely, either because it was decided at the time it was mixed, or recently when they decided to put this out with the two bonus tracks and wanted it all to fit on one CD. Why not drop Under Pressure (the Dallas one), since Gail Ann Dorsey is muted for the first part anyway? Sad.

Maybe they'll issue it on vinyl with Plot reinstated.

Unless the original setlist is wrong, it also appears they moved I’m deranged around - possibly in a small plots place? I’ll have to compare again.

[chuckrh]

I was at the Tacoma show! Prick opened. I was 15 and lived in Lynden, WA up by the Canadian border. My mom went with me (she had seats, I was on the floor). It was my first time seeing NIN and only time seeing Bowie. Such a great show.

It certainly was! 1 of the best all time for me. Bet mom wasn't advertising that she saw NIN in Lynden, haha. I remember we had to be very careful what music to sell we put in stores up there.

[botley]

I was referring to A Small Plot of Land, but you're right, it wouldn't make sense that they'd have the songs after it if the tape had run out. So they probably left Plot off purposely, either because it was decided at the time it was mixed, or recently when they decided to put this out with the two bonus tracks and wanted it all to fit on one CD. Why not drop Under Pressure (the Dallas one), since Gail Ann Dorsey is muted for the first part anyway? Sad.

Maybe they'll issue it on vinyl with Plot reinstated.
"Plot" wasn't performed that night, in actual fact. I reviewed the extant audience recording (which is available on bowiestation (https://www.bowiestation.com/torrents-details.php?id=1231)) and it matches the released running order, so setlist.fm was in error about that. Ouvrez le Chien contains the complete set, minus NIN.

[botley]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q10ZH4Dhc6o

Phoenix Festival '97 performance from twenty-three years ago (yesterday!), in an airfield outside Stratford-upon-Avon.

Quicksand
The Man Who Sold the World
Driftin' Blues/The Jean Genie
I'm Afraid of Americans
Battle for Britain (The Letter)
Fashion
Seven Years in Tibet
Fame
Looking for Satellites
Under Pressure
The Hearts Filthy Lesson
Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps)
Hallo Spaceboy
Little Wonder

Encore:
Dead Man Walking
White Light/White Heat
O Superman
Stay

[botley]

^ This is one of those festivals where Bowie and his band were their own "support act", performing under the nom de rave Tao Jones Index:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbzAfkdEaMQ

[botley]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqQ__Jr77WE

From the upcoming Something in the Air (Live Paris '99) album streaming next week. Once again, the complete show is being released for the first time.

[fillow]

^^
Pretty sure a phoshot of this show was heavily bootlegged before
edit: yep, it's on Bowiestation

[tricil]

"Plot" wasn't performed that night, in actual fact. I reviewed the extant audience recording (which is available on bowiestation (https://www.bowiestation.com/torrents-details.php?id=1231)) and it matches the released running order, so setlist.fm was in error about that. Ouvrez le Chien contains the complete set, minus NIN.

Well then let’s correct setlist.fm then

(Just did, FYI)

[talkingnothing]

I'm halfway through the new live album Something in the Air (Live Paris '99). There are some things i'm liking about it, but i'm really not digging the backing vocals. Something i really don't like about them. Hours was never really one of my favorites, though there are some tracks i really dig, like Something in the Air, New Angels of Promise, and the bonus track We Shall Go to Town. Overall this 99 show just isn't doing it for me. I've really enjoyed the last 2 live streaming releases, the 95 and 97 sets, and the Bowie at the Beeb bonus disc with the set from 2000 is probably my all time favorite Bowie live release. I feel like they should give that one a wider release, i got it back at the time of original release, but i'm not sure if it was limited in any way or if lots of folks have heard it.

[botley]

I'm halfway through the new live album Something in the Air (Live Paris '99). There are some things i'm liking about it, but i'm really not digging the backing vocals. Something i really don't like about them.
Yeah, something about Emm and Holly's blend as vocalists very specifically carbon-dates the ...hours band to exactly 1999, haha. I suppose we can be thankful that Reeves Gabrels talked Bowie out of using TLC for "Thursday's Child", yeeugh. But with that said, I do really love Gail Ann Dorsey's voice, and her harmony vocal on "Survive" is one of the highlights of this set.

[barkhammer]

Yeah, something about Emm and Holly's blend as vocalists very specifically carbon-dates the ...hours band to exactly 1999, haha. I suppose we can be thankful that Reeves Gabrels talked Bowie out of using TLC for "Thursday's Child", yeeugh. But with that said, I do really love Gail Ann Dorsey's voice, and her harmony vocal on "Survive" is one of the highlights of this set.

Also enjoying the crunch of Page Hamilton on guitar here :D

[ChipRock]

Yeah, it's nice enough to listen to, and I'm glad they're releasing what they have, but it does seem very clear this was not a well oiled touring machine here.
I'm not a huge fan of the Glasto/Beeb recordings from the following year, but they've clearly come together as a group by then.
Big surprise to see that Page Hamilton was involved though - I'd missed this fact completely until this week!
Guess we might be getting something from 2002 next, right?

[fillow]

The fact that they completely jumped over 1990 tour makes me a sad panda

[tricil]

The fact that they completely jumped over 1990 tour makes me a sad panda

You’re right, Sound + Vision was going to be what i would have expected next.

[botley]

The fact that they completely jumped over 1990 tour makes me a sad panda

They used a tiny bit of the backdrop film from that Sound + Vision tour for the music video promoting Visconti's 50th anniversary remix of "Space Oddity", so I have a feeling that behind the scenes someone is working on a full-length concert video for that tour, but it's anyone's guess when that sort of thing would be released. One would hope that the original music director and guitarist (a young upstart by the name of Belew) might get to have a say in the Sound component of such a document!

But as nice as the official releases are, these 90s tours are already extensively documented on bootlegs. The next thing coming for Record Store Drops #1 in about a week is I'm Only Dancing (The Soul Tour '74), which is from a part of that year very poorly represented in tape traders' circles. This is the first time we'll be hearing a soundboard recording from that leg of the tour, in fact.

[Toadflax]

Okay, which one of you let this happen:


https://youtu.be/BpEMOw35DYo

[botley]

Braved the Record Store Day COVID crowds (actually a pretty civilized, cautious group of lovely folx) to get I'm Only Dancing on vinyl and — so, so very glad that I did. Never can have enough from this tour! And the soundboard recording quality is surprisingly great.

[Reznor2112]

This may be a no-no to ask (grey area since vinyl exclusive?) but is anyone willing to share a vinyl rip of I'm Only Dancing (Soul Tour)?

[Lerxto]

This may be a no-no to ask (grey area since vinyl exclusive?) but is anyone willing to share a vinyl rip of I'm Only Dancing (Soul Tour)?
It's not vinyl exclusive, it's available on CD as well.
It's available here and there (the usual places), but if you can't find one, my inbox is open.

[Reznor2112]

It's not vinyl exclusive, it's available on CD as well.
It's available here and there (the usual places), but if you can't find one, my inbox is open.

Oh -- I had no idea it was on CD as well. Never mind!

[botley]

I have a vinyl rip if anyone is REALLY stoked to hear what it sounds like through my very modest turntable, haha.

[muad'nin]

Been enjoying this (https://dylanhowe.bandcamp.com/) for quite a while now. It’s a niche product (jazz interpretations of instrumentals from a specific Bowie era), but it’s so much fun. And a nice surprise or two in the tracklist, too.

Could be old news amongst Bowie-philes, but for anyone not already familiar, I hope you enjoy.

[october_midnight]

The Man Who Sold The World to be reissued under original title 'Metrobolist' with original cover and remastered sound!

article (https://consequenceofsound.net/2020/09/david-bowie-the-man-who-sold-the-world-metrobolist/)


Also, finally pulled the trigger on this graphic novel and can't recommend it enough...definitely a fun read.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81CkFLC2T1L.jpg

[armogi]

it's a little annoying to see a new remaster when the previous one was barely 5 years ago... i did bite the bullet for SO but i'm not sure about this one now

[botley]

it's a little annoying to see a new remaster when the previous one was barely 5 years ago... i did bite the bullet for SO but i'm not sure about this one now
It's not just a remaster: eight of the tracks have been completely remixed by Tony Visconti. I'm going to try it out on Tidal to see how I like it, first... but this is one album I don't have on vinyl, so I might plump for that. The remixed Space Oddity from last year was pretty enjoyable.

Just came across this: how fucking great is this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfwbRWMuNS0

[Erneuert]

Man, it's so harrowing to go back through this thread and read all the excitement for Blackstar, then suddenly the news of his passing. (https://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/590-David-Bowie/page23) My head still can't get around it.

[Shadaloo]

Just picked up ChangesNowBowie on LP. Annoyed there's no lossless download, but not surprised.

[Space Suicide]

Man, it's so harrowing to go back through this thread and read all the excitement for Blackstar, then suddenly the news of his passing. (https://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/590-David-Bowie/page23) My head still can't get around it.

It hit like a freight truck.

[BRoswell]

Update on the next boxset: (https://www.facebook.com/davidbowie/posts/10157450086827665?__cft__[0]=AZXYfWfNlnn9AUWHR6YJ0a8KWOnnM2HpbKb6UZypVVTuL98i2 SotaMpviaUnRywe97u8PUptoOUdEAVATLDcR5Lz1S5hLwMXAsD UHF0tBYdMJDNgZPq4s0BdYMDHXpEVuhkHs1keP5NPi7lVHwrK0 WSxO17UHg8A2saQ8NY7JrnIVzebZ3fYCAcv6qXduw0WrgboUZK EitNz3uwnazJQU6W6&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R)


DAVID BOWIE ERA 5 BOX SET UPDATE

“Looking at the future solid as a rock because of you, Again and again...”

On the day that we celebrate the 10th anniversary of the Station To Station box set, we thought it would be a good time to bring you up to speed with the plans for the Era 5 set.

It seems that every time we make a post on the official channels regarding new releases, a great number of you use the opportunity to comment on the lack of news regarding the Era 5 set. That's to be expected and your frustration is understandable.

But first, here's a reminder of the first four era box releases:
Era 1 = Five Years (1969–1973) - Released 2015 = 42 years
Era 2 = Who Can I Be Now? (1974–1976) - Released 2016 = 40 years
Era 3 = A New Career in a New Town (1977–1982) - Released 2017 = 35 years
Era 4 = Loving the Alien (1983–1988) - Released 2018 = 30 years

As you can see, the amount of time between the last year covered by each era box and its release date is decreasing exponentially, if that makes sense.

So with the Era 5 box which was originally going to cover the years 1993 to 1999, the plan was to release last year. Though that meant it was only a 20 year gap between 'hours...' and the release of the Era 5 box, it was considered a set that many fans were clamouring for due to the titles that hadn't been released on vinyl originally or were hard to find.

However, we then decided to increase the span of the box up to 2001, so to keep at least a 20 year gap between the last year covered and release date, it means the box won't now be released till next year.

Also, due to the effect of COVID, not only on everyday life, but its impact on plans within the music industry as a whole too, this has been an evolving situation and we thank you for your patience.

Of course, that doesn't mean you won't be getting anything new until next year. You may have noticed that various other releases have peppered the months in-between the era boxes, including live albums and the Conversation Piece set last year, along with other releases.

Indeed, stay tuned for the announcement of another exciting project before the end of next week.

May we also take this opportunity to thank you for your continued support and for the enthusiasm shown for the era boxes.

[fillow]

Noooooo where the hell is Tin Machine box?

[r_z]

Toy!

[botley]

Noooooo where the hell is Tin Machine box?
Development hell, presumably. At least we got La Cigale on streaming and the II album reissued on CD/vinyl.

This is still a HUGE amount of ground to cover in one box set. Probably going to be at least 16 LPs, even if they don't include the recently released 90s live albums:

Two for BTWN, two for remixes/B-sides
Two for Buddha, two for 1. Outside
One for Earthling, two for Liveandwell.com
One for hours..., one for Toy
Three for Re:Call 5

[ChipRock]

Taking Era 5 up to 2001 seems odd to me. If nothing else he Toy/Heathen crossover would muddle things a bit, surely? Look forward to seeing what they come up with though.

[r_z]

Heathen would mark where he started working with Visconti again.

[botley]

Heathen would mark where he started working with Visconti again.

I think there's at least one track from 2001 that Visconti had a hand in — he produced Bowie's vocal track for "Nature Boy" on the Moulin Rouge! soundtrack.

[paul_guyet]

Taking Era 5 up to 2001 seems odd to me. If nothing else he Toy/Heathen crossover would muddle things a bit, surely? Look forward to seeing what they come up with though.They threw in "The Gouster", so I don't think that would be a real issue.

But, damn, how about that huge press release? I appreciate the candor and free sharing of info. Really hope we get some true, unreleased goodies for "Earthling", "Outside" and "hours...". In my stickiest dreams...we get "Contamination"...

[tricil]

Obviously I’ll hope that the 93-01 box includes a physical release of Ouvrez le Chien with the NIN portion.

My conjecture for the content:

1. Black Tie White Noise
2. The Buddha of Suburbia
3. 1. Outside
4. Ouvrez le Chien
5. Earthling
6. Liveandwell
7. Hours
8. Something In the air
9. Glastonbury 2000
10. Toy
11. Re:call 5

But who knows. Patterns break.

[fillow]

Continuing the existing pattern, they're gonna include VH1 and bbc London Theater shows, no?

[tricil]

Continuing the existing pattern, they're gonna include VH1 and bbc London Theater shows, no?

Forgot about those. The London theatre show was on a limited Beeb right?

Also, Glasto 2000 fits in the time. Not sure if they’d really want FOUR hours shows in one box.

[fillow]

Forgot about those. The London theatre show was on a limited Beeb right?
Yeah, in shortened form. They cut out about a third of it to fit onto one CD


Also, Glasto 2000 fits in the time. Not sure if they’d really want FOUR hours shows in one box.
Glasto is the one I don't expect to be there, actually. They didn't include any other "new" live albums on the previous box sets (London 78, LA 74)

[tricil]

Yeah, in shortened form. They cut out about a third of it to fit onto one CD


Glasto is the one I don't expect to be there, actually. They didn't include any other "new" live albums on the previous box sets (London 78, LA 74)

Because those were RSD releases that came *after* the boxes themselves.

They’d have needed time travel to include those two in their respective boxes.

By that logic, Changesnowbowie also fits the time frame but I don’t expect it included.

[seasonsinthesky]

I'm scared including Toy means no Leon, which means this box is a no-go for me. No Leon, no buy. Unless making 2001 the upper limit means something that isn't Toy...

[rampface]

Yea this seems super weird. The Era 5 boxset should only include the 90's records and there's already so much unreleased stuff from that decade. Then the Era 6 set would have Heathen, Reality, The Next Day and Blackstar plus Toy and whatever else they have unreleased during this that time.

[r_z]

I'd be surprised should that set include the Leon stuff tbh. I'd love some more stuff like Is It Any Wonder? You know... actual unreleased songs, not just remixes or single edits (which this era sure has plenty of)...

[ChipRock]

No Leon, no buy.
Yeah I was thinking of how they'd have to include the 2000 live sets too, so there'd be no room for any extended Outside material aka Leon suites. At the end of the day this is what I would really love to see released, but at the same time I know it's unlikely.
The Re:call disc could end up might packed as it is with soundtrack songs, remixes and what not. It'd be a shame if everybody came away disappointed with a severely edited set overall. Of course a bunch of this era is more readily available digitally, ie Real Cool World and BTWN singles at least... Oi! What a job to have to work all this stuff out.

[botley]

Honestly, the point of these boxes has never been to dole out reams of unreleased stuff. It's about mopping up the studio albums and non-album tracks, canonical live albums, and maybe an unheard version of a studio album for a different perspective... or as bait, just to get fans who already own everything to purchase it again (pick one, depending how cynical you are). And then putting them all together on our shelves.

Given how rare it is to find decent copies of the 90s albums on vinyl these days, I can't see them stuffing this one with extras just to make it attractive. Vinyl fans are going to be drooling, no matter what. All they have to say in the press release is "vinyl pressing of Buddha of Suburbia exclusive to the box" and I'm hitting the pre-order button. I'd love to see the Leon suites get a full airing, too, but without Bowie's participation it's unlikely. I'll reiterate that the 2020 version of liveandwell.com seems like the only live thing that truly has to be in this set, and Toy makes the most sense as the already-completed, never-fully-released carrot to dangle for superfans that have everything else in their collections.

[rampface]

What's the best version of Leon out in the world? I have a 3 track version with each track labelled as Suite. It's been a year or more since I've listened to it but I seem to remember one or two of the tracks had skips or weird lo-fi editing problems? Can anyone help me out with whatever the highest quality and full version exists. Many thanks in advance!

[tricil]

More 1995 live stuff coming: https://twitter.com/davidbowiereal/status/1311823614552014848?s=21

I swear if we get the full NIN portion...

[hellospaceboy]

More 1995 live stuff coming: https://twitter.com/davidbowiereal/status/1311823614552014848?s=21



I went from lukewarm to pumped after watching this teaser, Jesus Christ I love this era, just seeing him in that Union Jack coat gives me chills...

I cannot overestimate how important Earthling was for 15 year old me in 1997!