I'm probably in the minority: not a die-hard Manson fanboy, but I like Born Villain. It grows on me with each listen.
I'm probably in the minority: not a die-hard Manson fanboy, but I like Born Villain. It grows on me with each listen.
Its grown on me some since I first heard it. I don't know if I'd call it a return to form though.
Saw him last night at Heavy MTL. The guy is done. Vocals were terrible. He looked awful. Setlist was decent though.
Slipknot played after and they made Manson look like a Disney musical.
Bought tickets to see him and Rob Zombie in October. I haven't listened to anything after Golden Age, is it worth it to check out his newer albums for the live show or not even bother?
Skip his albums and hope you catch him on a good night when it comes to the live shows. I really wish I could have seen him during his peak period of 97-00, those shows and the supporting albums look like they rocked, unlike the last few tours. I'd say the last decent show I saw was during the Least We Forget period. I saw him in San Diego back in 2008/2009 (can't remember exactly when) and he was a bloated mess, but still managed to put on a semi-decent show. At least you have Rob Zombie as a co-headliner. I've seen him twice, once with a full area setup, the other was in a small venue in San Diego with a very stripped down stage show, and both times he killed it. I wish RZ would come up to Seattle but chances of that happening look slim
Saw 'em last night at Heavy MTL. Gotta say he sounded pretty top-notch and put on a great show.
Isn't it just?
Maybe I should go a little more in-depth since I posted my prior comment yesterday in a quick happy fit of drunk: I think his vox have significantly improved since he performed that embarrassingly under-sold show here at the Metropolis on THEOL tour. This marks the third time I've seen him; the first being on the HW tour.
Now, at no point, even back then, would I have ever said that he's been a mind-blowing live singer. As far as I know he's always taken trips backstage to huff oxygen (and change costumes) between songs. But I can honestly say last night it looked like he was having a lot of fun and really putting a solid effort in, this as opposed to last time when he just sort of wore a trenchcoat and more or less stood in one place for the whole show. He's also definitely lost weight since then.
That said, he takes it easier on the theatrics these days, which is disappointing. Gone, it seems, are the days of crutches, stilts, and rising ten feet above the floor (single best part of the very brief HW show here which he cut short when he broke his hand or some such).
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Without a forklift. IT WAS TOO EASY. I HAD TO.
Seriously though, like I've said...for me the theatrics were always backseat in terms of importance for his live shows (as weird as that is considering who we're discussing)...it was always kinda integral sure, but I just want someone to give it their all...and for the past few years he hasn't. If he is now, I'm game...but even the clips from shows I've seen from shows where fanboys said 'FUCK THAT, HE WAS AMAZING. TOP FORM.' it seemed that it sounded like shit run over twice. Agreed though that he never was an amazing vocalist, but I always dug the way he sounded personally. The effort is key for me.
Fuck brostep remixes.
The NYC stop of the Rob Zombie/Manson show is US $94.85 for GA. Fuck that. $50, OK. $100? Yeah right.
Wow. FUCK that!
my tickets for the 02 in london cost £45
so ner
(don't get to brag about things in UK being cheap very often)
That's $70: not cheap and more than I would consider acceptable for a rock concert ticket. I'd rather see a band in a club where you can actually see and hear the band than some overblown bullshit rock theater for a ton of money. But Manson would never expose himself to a club tour...
Is $70, or even $100, really too much money for a double headliner with Marilyn Manson and Rob Zombie? I understand if you're not into them that much, but that seems fair enough to me.
Then again, maybe I've been to too many Maynard James Keenan concerts and I'm jaded by ticket prices...
$70-$100 for a show that has two co-headlining acts? Might as well say you're paying for two seperate shows with prices that low that seem high.
Considering I paid $150 for Rammstein last May, $100 for 2 main headling acts such as Manson and Zombie together seems like a steal of a deal.
no, i just think you got ripped off, and/or you (and many others sadly) are just meekly going along with the skyrocketing prices that Live Nation, AEG, Bowery Presents and other promoters throw at us. its not like theyre going up 2 or 3 dollars a year. Bigger shows are going up $10, $15, even $30 every year. It's ridiculous, and when it's has been acts like these, it esp. gets exposed.
also, is there a 3rd band on the tour? if so, they can say co-headline all they want, unless both bands are playing 80 minutes or more, it ain't a co-headline.
tickets are about 60$ over here. quite steep but compared to other concerts you get quite alot for your money. Nickelback for example are charging up to 90$. that's ONE band with ONE not so spectacular live show for you.
the price for concert tickets overall is insane tough. prices have easily doubled since the Euro. I remember a time where going to concerts was one of the cheaper ways to spend your free time. oh well...
Zombie I know he'll put on a good show, he's a professional. But both Manson shows I've seen have been disappointing: the first was OK, nothing special (NYC 2004?), the second (Download 2009) was a joke. So there's no guarantee, for me, that Manson will actually be any good for that 1/2 of $100. Plus as far as I know they still don't have a guitarist in the band...
Though their music is garbage, Nickelback are actually a pretty good live band, with an engaging show (if you like that kind of thing, which you probably don't): my point is that Nickelback know how to satisfy their fans, Manson has been failing repeatedly at that for a long time now. I just can't afford to gamble $100 on him right now. I wish I could afford a "not everything is measured in $$$" philosophy, but so far my lottery ticket has not hit the jackpot.