The Smiths/Morrissey

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The Night Pop Dropped and Without Music The World Dies both debuted live tonight in Paris.

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RIP Andy Rourke.

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New song Notre-Dame done live.

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“Darling, I Hug A Pillow” debuted live tonight.

[bobbie solo]

This was weird. Guess these are the only kinds of interviews he can do where he won't be challenged for what a reactionary shithead he's become.

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For anyone not caught up, here’s where we currently stand:

- He recently canceled a bunch of shows (heh heh). Actually did the Japan show two days ago, and the next shows are here in Australia. I’m not going, because of next points.

- Live shows have all been same, repetitive set lists. Alain rejoined the band briefly, and recorded the new album Without Music The World Dies, but left soon after with Gustavo because Morrissey’s manager has been bullying everyone. No bad blood with Moz, but he refuses to come back until the managed is axed, or replaced. Apparently the manager and Jesse Tobias are tight. I can’t stand either of them. Alain is a brilliant musician.

- Bonfire Of Teenagers still isn’t out. About a 10 second clip of the studio version of I Am Veronica was posted online in a tour ad a few months back. Currently he’s only playing the song Sure Enough, The Telephone Rings live lately, which is really crappy. The closer, however (Saint In A Stained Glass Window) is majestic, and I Live In Oblivion is also amazing. If he buys the record back from Capitol, he’ll have to release a version of I Am Veronica without Miley Cyrus’s vocals on it, or re-record it. Still a mystery to me why the label released Rebels Without Applause officially as a single, then that was it.

- Without Music The World Dies… who knows if that will come out either? He’s played the title track (which is pretty crap) live, and the opener The Night Pop Dropped. The later is pretty good. Then he played the song Notre-Dame (or Notre-DAYUM! as I call it) and it is also pretty crappy.

And that’s where we stand. Two unreleased Morrissey albums and The Cure’s new album still also nowhere to be seen. lol.

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First show in Perth, Australia canceled.

He says he’s going to do a show in January performing You Are The Quarry in its entirety but that’ll probably get canceled too at this rate.

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First show in Perth, Australia canceled.

He says he’s going to do a show in January performing You Are The Quarry in its entirety but that’ll probably get canceled too at this rate.

Correct. They were both canceled at the last moment.

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lollercopter

[thefragile_jake]

lmao what is this? hahahaha.

i alwyas loved this track tho.

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lmao what is this? hahahaha.

i alwyas loved this track tho.

Morrissey designed the sleeve for it. He said it’s better than his version…

https://www.morrissey-solo.com/threa...9-2024.152194/

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"A RUSH AND A PUSH AND THE MUSIC IS OURS" (April 19, 2024)


Morrissey has paid the exit fee to Capitol Records in order to return both WORLD PEACE IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS and BONFIRE OF TEENAGERS albums back to him.
"It's been a long, hard, bloody war. Few would make it out alive, and … I'm no exception," he has commented.
Morrissey remains unsigned.

[thefragile_jake]

You Are the Quarry is never going to repressed, is it? =/

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MORRISSEY
ANNOUNCES BEETHOVEN WAS DEAF LIVE IN PARIS
(2024 REMASTER)
OUT JULY 26TH

ANNOUNCES TWO LAS VEGAS SHOWS
JULY 26 & 27 AT HOUSE OF BLUES

"Despite recent fiascoes, I will indeed be fully present in blood-soaked flesh at the House of Blues in Las Vegas on July 26 (Friday) and 27 (Saturday). Having hung upside down for several months, I am now in good health - like an arrow fully drawn and waiting to be fired: please fling me. The 26th has ordained the first U.S. release of Beethoven Was Deaf, a live recording in Paris for your private use. Signed copies of the vinyl will be available at the House of Blues for those of you who still run upstairs whenever the doorbell rings (l certainly do.) Life begins again with full accompaniment from Jesse Tobias (guitar), Carmen Vandenberg (guitar), Camila Grey (keyboards), Solomon Walker (bass), and Matthew Walker (drums.) Expect a night of thrust and parry - no-show tunes. If you can find a decent pair of shoes, by all means come along. There is nothing quite like physical proximity, I am assured. If you would rather not come, then you are obviously one-half of a twin pair of parakeets. Some people sing, some poison the air. But if life is meaningless then why was there not always nothing? For those of you 85 and over who are still waiting for Bonfire Of Teenagers to be released, good news is finally within our grasp.

Hopefully, I will smell you in Vegas - where the audiences always stay the same age ... are you in the mood?" at
large — Morrissey

[imail724]

Although I would prefer You Are The Quarry or Southpaw Grammar on vinyl, I'm happy for any classic Moz on wax, so I'll definitely be scooping up that Beethoven release. I will never understand his need to use art from completely different eras though...

[thefragile_jake]

New tour dates.

[SaintNoir]

One on my birthday. Hopefully he shows. Let me know if anyone has the presale code!

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So after Johnny Marr recently showed what a liar Morrissey is, M then fired his management. Shortly after that, someone with inside info provided this information. What could have been…

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It's a sad day as Galli is widely known in the music industry as a good guy and really tried to do the best for Moz.

He was responsible for the massive Smiths reunion offer that the Mozzer signed off on. It was the first time Moz ever signed off on a Smith's reunion tour. I heard Galli even met with Marr's manager in London to try and mend the relationship.

Galli was also able to get Moz multiple record deal offers from big indie labels for Bonfire of Teenagers and Without Music the World Dies, but Moz rejected them as he only wishes to put music out on a major label. I find this to be very odd as I've always thought he was an advocate who protested against the "man" and the "major labels," but then won't sign to an indie label? Doesn't Red Light have multiple huge artists on indie labels that are massively successful? Aren't major labels dead in the rock n' roll space? Especially for a 65 year old?

There was also another big deal Galli had on the table regarding getting all the rights back to many of Moz's albums from BMG.

Galli inherited the Marr trademark issue from past management. From my understanding of the situation Galli wanted Moz to sign the paperwork splitting the trademark with Marr 50/50, but Moz thinks he should own 100% of the Smiths trademark and won't sign it. This is most likely the issue that made them part ways. Good luck with getting 100% of the trademark Moz.

On the flip side, Marr's camp is extremely dodgy. Management reached out to a very well-known singer of a major band (you can guess who) to see if he'd tour as the lead singer of "The Smiths." He of course rejected it right away. Marr's management also floated the idea of Marr touring as the Smiths to UK promoters which was also rejected.

As someone on the inside, I also know and got to see the plan and roll out Galli put together for Bonfire and it was genius. I was on some of those zoom meetings. It would have been a huge comeback for Moz and put him back on top. It started with the social media campaign and then a huge launch of a fan club that contains a ton of unreleased tracks, behind the scenes video and never before seen concerts. The fan club was scheduled to be launched in a few weeks and was already built. That would have lead into the first single from Bonfire and a big release date announcement for Bonfire. It was all scheduled to kick off the week of the upcoming tour with the album coming in 25, but Moz wouldn’t sign to the indie label. I thought all the hype about Marr was a well planned and executed PR stunt to get attention before the first single and album launch, but it was just Moz being Moz.

I actually thought that Moz and Galli were a good combo. He has the temperament and credibility as a level headed, smart, genuine, well liked manager who's in it for the right reasons. Sad day in Moz land.

[trollmanen]

As someone who is only casually interested in The Smiths and really doesn't care if they were to reunite or not, reading that, it sounds like Moz is just throwing away one career opportunity after another. Obviously getting Moz and Marr back together for The Smiths was likely never gonna happen, though as Oasis has shown, anything is possible eventually. I'm not a follower of his solo career, but even I've heard of this long awaited and "controversial" solo album, and it sounds like he just torpedoed a great rollout for it. He sounds like he's stuck in the past if he thinks he need a major label behind his album. Major labels are great for distribution, but plenty of big name artists have gone indie and it hasn't hurt their album sales. From what I've read about him though, this all sounds like par for the course.