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Betcha betcha betcha betcha ya dint think of Head Down?!???!Originally Posted by thatguymark
Id put that track in my top 25 NIN songs of all time no problem and it never gets much love. Kinda like Slave Only Dreams To Be King, but that is another topic alltogether...
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the art for Hesitation Marks had fuck all to do with the music.
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Most artwork for albums have fuck all to do with the music
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The Fragile's imagery and cover were closely linked to the sound of the album. Year Zero too. The Slip's cover reflected the content. Definitely the Downward Spiral.
but Hesitation Marks was just like: we didn't actually try to capture the sound of the album in a visual format... Sheridan took nice photos for it, but they're meaningless next to the music.
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I don't know if this would be better suited for the "disappointing moments thread" or the "controversial opinion thread" but I just took a look at that most recent Grammy performance again the one which got molested by advertising, i mean never mind the fact such BS happened to begin with but i found that performance was really just not that great in general, Austin City Limits was so much better, Kimmel as well even.
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They match the tone, but they don't literally have anything to do with the content of the album. Year Zero does. It actually takes ideas from the music/arg.
I disagree, I think it captures the tone of the album fine. But we can agree to disagree.
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Seeing as how HM was a reflection of sorts on TDS, I found the Russel Mills artwork very, very appropriate. The DE's Cargo In The Blood cover was a good mirror to the old TDS artwork, I found.
One thing that comes to mind is in said DE booklet - the page with Dissapointed's lyrics I think - there was a shot of dead hornets. That instantly made me think back to the buzzing you hear in Eraser, and kind of served as a commentary for me on how the vitriol, naked aggression, and desperation that song evoked was kind of a thing of the past.
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Disappointed still continues to be one of my favorites off of HM, though I think that has a lot to do with seeing it live. It was a very enjoyable part of the show.
For being a callback to the themes and concepts of TDS, honestly HM contains so much of everything that we've come to expect of NIN. Various Methods of Escape could have fit easily on The Fragile, I feel. Everything and All Time Low could have set along side Getting Smaller and Only on With Teeth, Satellite is very reminiscent of Year Zero's delivery and composition.
And that's not a bad thing! It's very effective as a retrospective album. Very much distilled Nine Inch Nails and I still have a good time listening to it (and all of NIN to be honest.)
I can't wait to see what Trent and Co. have come up with for the new EP. I'm already anticipating a follow up (wishful thinking, I know.)
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The live display was indeed incredible. It's the only redeeming thing for a song that, to me, has already been done over and over. I'm just "beat deconstructed"-out after "I Do Not Want This" and all of Year Zero.
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I think it's just time we all acknowledge Hesitation Marks for what it essentially is: the best Massive Attack record since 1998
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Isn't Welcome Oblivion a better example of TR sounding like Massive Attack?
And 100th Window is so, so beyond Hesitation Marks. C'mon now. So is Heligoland.
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If we're talking snooze-inducing Heligoland MA, then yes. HM is more beat-driven though, which reminds me of prime-era MA
Nothing against Welcome Oblivion; I love that album. It's just more languid to me than anything he's done in NIN
Debatable. 100W has its merits, no doubt. Sinead O sounds great on her cuts and Everywhen is still one of my favorite songs they've ever done. But the whole thing just ends up sounding like a down-shifted version of Mezzanine to me100th Window is so, so beyond Hesitation Marks.
No way. No way.C'mon now. So is Heligoland.
To each their own, etc. of course. I've just never warmed to Heligoland, from the first time I've heard it. The only thing worth keeping to me on that entire turd is Hope Sandoval's track, and that's only because she could read from a phone book and I would listen. That whole thing just sounds muted, unfocused and like Massive Attack trying to figure out how to still be Massive Attack. We waited seven years for that?
Hes Marks gets routinely dogged, but at least there's interesting variations of things going on throughout. Heligoland passes by like a boring, ordinary day you can't remember when it's over
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I saw Charlotte Church do her "Pop Dungeon" show this week where she performs Closer.
Needless to say the crowd had no idea what was going on.
After wanting to see it for so long, I was a little disappointed, but it was still an alright cover. She got the lyrics wrong though (but then again so does Trent...)
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So excited to hear "Dive and Slam" today!
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The right side of the cover has been always reminding me of a beer glass with some foam on the top, ever since the first time I saw it.
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I always thought it was a distorted pic of a face.
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Damn. I feel like I've subconsciously known this the whole time, but it just didn't quite click.
I don't want to be an entitled jerk or a whinger with regards to the new Fragile release, but I'm really agitated about hearing these at some point soon. There's just no way I can justify buying the vinyl right now. At least I can get some schadenfreude because of the apparent delays on their release...
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The right side of the cover has been always reminding me of a beer glass with some foam on the top, ever since the first time I saw it.
I can never unsee that now.
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The right side of the cover has been always reminding me of a beer glass with some foam on the top, ever since the first time I saw it.
I always thought it was trent's right elbow./arm. The black area on the left being the top of his hips/ass. I actually though he put his ass on the cover of the fragile.
I can't unsee the waterfall now.
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Did they ever post a picture of the shell as it looked before distortion like they've done with the waterfall image?
"cover image is a waterfall in iceland and a seashell in the west indies."
—David Carson
Saul Williams fan.
Trent should pull an Aphex and release eight years of unheard music on Apple Music.
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Someone did, based on some of Carson's books. This is what you get.
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I i really want to see this whole show. Hopefully decent recordings will surface now she's done it a few times. Love what little I've seen.
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I always forget that David Carson was also the dude behind Raygun magazine, which was one of the best music publications of the 90s, bar none..
Squeal like a pig.
They were filming the show I was at, they could put it out!
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From discussing our favorite NTAE songs, to those excellent audiophiles with their spectrogram comparisons, damn it's good to have new (and DE) NIN albums! Fucking love this forum.
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"Alessandro, Robin, Ilan, are a complete part of the family" from that Beats 1 interview made me feel warmer inside than it should have.
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I was there too! At the Tramshed?
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Does anyone have a audio rip of the live Tension tour from YouTube and also The Slip live audio? Would appreciate a PM
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RayGun and Carson influenced my artwork in serious ways. In fact, it took awhile to work through that influence and into something original, again. Deceptively difficult approach to design. Easy to copy but real tough to make distinctive
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