Nine Inch Nails 2013 tour

[JessicaSarahS]

I don't mind the "hits" when they are "head like a hole" "wish" "MOTP"....but TR apparently thinks 'only' 'hand that feeds' and 'survivalism' are "hits" which is the problem

But it's not like he's skipping HLAH and Wish, right? Only and THTF are just in addition to everything else. They always manage to play a decent setlist length.

[Kyle]

I don't mind the "hits" when they are "head like a hole" "wish" "MOTP"....but TR apparently thinks 'only' 'hand that feeds' and 'survivalism' are "hits" which is the problem

Hand that feeds is MUCH more of a hit than either Wish or MOTP. I've even heard Only on mainstream radio much more than either MOTP or Wish. Actually, I mentioned before about taking a casual fan to a Wave Goodbye show and she only recognized a couple of songs. THTF was one of them. Wish and MOTP were not (Only wasn't played).

[theimage13]

Hand that feeds is MUCH more of a hit than...MOTP.

I beg to differ. I don't know about commercial success, chart numbers, etc...but I'd be hard pressed to believe that a significant portion of pre-With Teeth fans consider The Hand That Feeds to be a substantially larger hit than March of the Pigs. I mean, that song is just a downright classic; a staple from Trent's earlier catalog. THTF is certainly a good track, and since I don't listen to it all that often, I do enjoy hearing it at shows. But personally, it just doesn't feel like it even belongs in the same category as MOTP. But hey, to each their own.

[JessicaSarahS]

I beg to differ. I don't know about commercial success, chart numbers, etc...but I'd be hard pressed to believe that a significant portion of pre-With Teeth fans consider The Hand That Feeds to be a substantially larger hit than March of the Pigs. I mean, that song is just a downright classic; a staple from Trent's earlier catalog. THTF is certainly a good track, and since I don't listen to it all that often, I do enjoy hearing it at shows. But personally, it just doesn't feel like it even belongs in the same category as MOTP. But hey, to each their own.

MOTP is definitely iconic, but if you listen to mainstream radio, you're more likely to hear THTF than MOTP. But Closer trumps all of those and still finds regular airplay on my local stations.

[billpulsipher]

THTF might be more iconic for causal fans, but the hardcore fans all know MOTP is the real classic and dwarfs THTF...kinda like the casual Cure fan might recognize 'Friday im in love' where the hardcore fan regards '100 years' or 'forest' as the true classic

[Vertigo]

I don't mind the "hits" when they are "head like a hole" "wish" "MOTP"....but TR apparently thinks 'only' 'hand that feeds' and 'survivalism' are "hits" which is the problem

They are. Hand That Feeds charted better than any pre-Fragile single; Only and Survivalism made it to #1 on the US Alternative chart. And from the subjective standpoint, I know I'd rather hear Only than Head Like A Hole.

[m15a]

THTF might be more iconic for causal fans, but the hardcore fans all know MOTP is the real classic and dwarfs THTF...kinda like the casual Cure fan might recognize 'Friday im in love' where the hardcore fan regards '100 years' or 'forest' as the true classic

i'm assuming you're defining "the hardcore fans" as people that have the same opinion as you. in that case, yup, totally agree.

[BRoswell]

I really couldn't give a shit which songs are considered the "true" hits and which aren't. Why does it matter? Trent's not going to cater to that one guy in the crowd who has been to all the concerts and has heard Head Like A Hole a million times. It's his concert and he'll play what he wants with the setup he has. Too bad, so sad for you if you've heard them at other concerts.

[Deepvoid]

Remember when they did an entire summer tour without playing Closer at any of the shows?

Yeah..."obviously" doesn't work with Nine Inch Nails.

Obviously they are gonna play most of the classics.

[slave2thewage]

Spoiler: There will be tambourine.

[tony.parente]

Spoiler: There will be tambourine.

Judging by what they did with 1,000,000 i'm leaning towards a synth tamborine this tour.

[slave2thewage]

Pro: Tension will feature And All That Could Have Been and The Perfect Drug.
Con: The only instrument used in the arrangements is tambourine.

[tony.parente]

Pro: Tension will feature And All That Could Have Been and The Perfect Drug.
Con: The only instrument used in the arrangements is tambourine.

The Perfect Drug (2013 version) - Exclusively containing a drum machine, tambourine and a kickin bass line.

[Kyle]

THTF might be more iconic for causal fans, but the hardcore fans all know MOTP is the real classic and dwarfs THTF...kinda like the casual Cure fan might recognize 'Friday im in love' where the hardcore fan regards '100 years' or 'forest' as the true classic

And the casual fans are exactly who we're talking about when we're talking about the hits. We're the anomalies. There are many more of them than there are of us. If you're going to tell me that MOTP is a "bigger hit" than THTF you're flat out wrong. You'll get people agreeing with you here but not in the real world.

[slave2thewage]

But MOTP IS a bigger hit than THTF!

...If you're still living in 2004, that is.

[Kyle]

Pro: Tension will feature And All That Could Have Been and The Perfect Drug.
Con: The only instrument used in the arrangements is tambourine.

Worth the admission price alone.

[Kyle]

i'm assuming you're defining "the hardcore fans" as people that have the same opinion as you. in that case, yup, totally agree.

i try to go easy on him since being the grumpy "true fan" is his shtick.

[Fist Fuck]

LOL @ hits discussion. Seriously. Get over it. Every band plays their hits, some new songs to promore a new release and, if you're lucky (which we are as NIN fans) some deep cuts. Trent even promised more obscure songs for Tension, since there's his "more sophisticated" audience with a (hopefully) higher attention span.

I'm just curious about the upcoming production, and how much of it will make it to Europe (and Australia) and if production conflicts were the real reason for HTDA not to perform or if it's just too much work to play with two bands at the same festivals. Guess we'll never know so I'll take Mariqueen's word for that.

[Vrolok1]

Pro: Tension will feature And All That Could Have Been and The Perfect Drug.
Con: The only instrument used in the arrangements is tambourine.

Is this for real? OMFG

[dlb]

Yeah seriously, enough with the hits! Can we please go back to discussing a live version of happiness in slavery? Thanks!

Or let's get with the Blink182 version of the song:

[chroipahtz]

Is this for real? OMFG

Are YOU for real?

[slave2thewage]

Is this for real? OMFG

Yup. I was at rehearsals yesterday. The new version of Zero-Sum is pretty cool.

I'm only getting in because Josh Eustis is my boyfriend.

[Kyle]

Yeah seriously, enough with the hits! Can we please go back to discussing a live version of happiness in slavery? Thanks!

Or let's get with the Blink182 version of the song:

my initial reaction was that I was perfectly happy not knowing that existed. By the time it was done I thought it was kinda cool. Realizing it wasn't really Blink 182 helped.

[tony.parente]

Yeah seriously, enough with the hits! Can we please go back to discussing a live version of happiness in slavery? Thanks!

Or let's get with the Blink182 version of the song:

Its did happiness in slavery have a love child with everything?

[dlb]

My thoughts exactly!

[Krazy]

I'm only getting in because Josh Eustis is my boyfriend.

He told me I was the only one- I KNEW there was someone else.

[Kyle]

He told me I was the only one- I KNEW there was someone else.

Well I already knew I wasn't the only one. Of course the gang bangs with the rest of the band made that obvious.

[Vrolok1]

Well I already knew I wasn't the only one. Of course the gang bangs with the rest of the band made that obvious.

I knew it!

[eversonpoe]

I'm only getting in because Josh Eustis is my boyfriend.

[ManBurning]

Anyone have any predicitions on what songs might show up? I made a couple setlists I thought were likely.

If I had to guess:

STATIC SONGS ON EVERY SET:
Copy of A
Came Back Haunted
Find My Way
Gave Up
MOTP
HLAH
THTF
Survivalism
Wish
Terrible Lie

NEW / Songs not been played in a while/never before:
La Mer
Into The Void
Everything
All time Low
The Four Of Us Are Dying
The Mark Has Been Made
In Two
While I'm Still Here / Black Noise
I Would For You

ROTATING SONGS:
Down In It
TDTWWA
The Frail/Wretched
SICHN
Vessel
Good Soldier
Reptile
Becoming
You Know What You Are?
Closer

ONE or TWO times played on tour:
Dead Souls
I'm Afraid Of Americans
Suck
Head Down

EXTREME WISHFUL THINKING (AKA: Not gonna happen, but one can dream):
The Perfect Drug
Sunspots
Happiness In Slavery
WITT

EDIT: To clarify here, this is NOT songs *I* want to hear, this is me trying to be logical here. If it were up to me, the setlist would have insane stuff like Ruiner, Ringfinger, Demon Seed, Ripe (With Decay), Underneath it all, Last, Zero-Sum, Sin, etc... on the list.