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[TheBang]

Good point. I'm not sure how necessary they really are, when we have all the important stuff pasted into the wiki anyway. I'll bring back whatever folks want me to, though.

IMO, if the original source (or a copy) exists, it's always nice to be able to refer to it and see context.

[piggy]

IMO, if the original source (or a copy) exists, it's always nice to be able to refer to it and see context.

Ok, I put the archive.org links into the PHM article as sources in their respective areas/contexts. Thanks for the idea.

[Erneuert]

@Malechite - if you ever want to give ninwiki a sub-name/catchphrase, how about “Everything gets written down.”?

[jmtd]

I did my annual wiki dump/backup to archive.org: https://archive.org/details/wiki-www.nin.wiki-20220701

[piggy]

2) Track 2 AFTERMATH
According to https://www.nin.wiki/Aftermath
'The track also samples "Blood From The Air" by Coil.'
As a long time COIL fan (former fb group admin too) I admit I can't hear it.
Similarities? Yes but not the sample.

Something has made me revisit this. Listen to BFTA on YT at 1.25 speed and then listen to Aftermath at normal speed. The 1.25 speed is not an exact match for the tempo, but it's close enough to hear what I was getting at. The sample isn't 100% direct, but there are two elements from BFTA that I feel are being used in Aftermath. Anyone else hear it?

[jmtd]

Is “I personally think this is a sample” the only bar to reach to claim so on the wiki?

[piggy]

I don't know. I usually try to have multiple ears confirming a sample, just to be sure.

[piggy]

Guys, should we be populating this page?
https://www.nin.wiki/Covers_Of_NIN

If so, how do we decide which artists get added? For example, does any old live cover count or should it only be covers that have had some sort of a commercial or professionally-recorded release? What are some other situations where a page like this would get messy?

[fillow]

I think live covers are okay as long as the performing artist is relatively well-known (Corey Taylor, Mumford & Suns, Brand New etc) and not just some unknown cover band or homemade garage youtube cover

[sonic_discord]

How is the Johnny Cash cover of Hurt not listed on that page?? LOL – It's THE most famous cover. (Yes, I saw it's a test page, but still)

[Suedehead]

I have a strong feeling that the actor in the Help Me Im In Hell video is Serge Becker, one of the directors. Pictures match up pretty well.

[piggy]

I don't see a lot of similarity. Nose, lips, nasolabial folds are all different. Also, Serge Becker has brown eyes and at the :51 second mark in the video, you can see that the actor has lighter colored eyes.

[Suedehead]

I don't see a lot of similarity. Nose, lips, nasolabial folds are all different. Also, Serge Becker has brown eyes and at the :51 second mark in the video, you can see that the actor has lighter colored eyes.

Fair enough. If no one else agrees, I'm okay with being wrong on this. Thanks for also looking.

[TheBang]

Can we make note of when the vinyl reissues included a digital download copy, and maybe even attach a picture of the digital download card art?

[piggy]

Sounds good to me.

[Pyract]

Looking at the page for 2001-07-01 London page (https://www.nin.wiki/2000/07/01_London,_UK), 3 of the 4 external links no longer work. Is there any way to restore these?

[Jon]

Looking at the page for 2001-07-01 London page (https://www.nin.wiki/2000/07/01_London,_UK), 3 of the 4 external links no longer work. Is there any way to restore these?

For reference, here's those 3 articles on the Wayback Machine:

NAILS BOMB! = https://web.archive.org/web/20070404.../xart246.shtml
NINE INCH NAILS AT WAR WITH NIN! (lol) = https://web.archive.org/web/20070404.../xart256.shtml
The Lost Weekend: Reznor Says Sorry! = https://web.archive.org/web/20070312.../xart258.shtml

[Pyract]

For reference, here's those 3 articles on the Wayback Machine:

NAILS BOMB! = https://web.archive.org/web/20070404.../xart246.shtml
NINE INCH NAILS AT WAR WITH NIN! (lol) = https://web.archive.org/web/20070404.../xart256.shtml
The Lost Weekend: Reznor Says Sorry! = https://web.archive.org/web/20070312.../xart258.shtml

Thanks! I tried the wayback machine, but forgot all about changing the .com back to .net!

[Jon]

Thanks! I tried the wayback machine, but forgot all about changing the .com back to .net!

It will always be .net in our hearts.

I wonder how many articles are "missing"? Did any of the SmashedUpSanity Archives survive post 2017?

[sonic_discord]

Is it worth showing some of the other alternate Beside You in Time cover options that Rob recently revealed on Facebook? You know, besides the blue version that was used for the lithograph given away as a pre-order bonus (my personal favorite of the cover designs because of how it mimics the With Teeth cover art).

[Erneuert]

Is it worth showing some of the other alternate Beside You in Time cover options that Rob recently revealed on Facebook? You know, besides the blue version that was used for the lithograph given away as a pre-order bonus (my personal favorite of the cover designs because of how it mimics the With Teeth cover art).

That last one with Trent’s silhouette looking like… I don’t know what is really freaky.

[piggy]

I've added them in a gallery within the artwork section. Thanks for the heads up!

[piggy]

@Malechite
Two more MIA pages:
https://www.nin.wiki/Ninremixes.com
https://www.nin.wiki/The_Meathead_Perspective

[Prick]

https://www.nin.wiki/Fragile_In_Berlin#

Added a new bootleg. Still learning the ropes, sort of.

[TheBang]

@Malechite
Got this error when trying to upload a WebP file:

Error creating thumbnail: /bin/bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (C.UTF-8) convert: delegate failed `'dwebp' -pam '%i' -o '%o'' @ error/delegate.c/InvokeDelegate/1928. convert: unable to open file `/tmp/magick-2164ZH4-w02UP09q': No such file or directory @ error/constitute.c/ReadImage/604. convert: no images defined `/tmp/transform_801933909fdf.png' @ error/convert.c/ConvertImageCommand/3235. Error code: 1

[Erneuert]

@piggy can you edit this page to state Charlie confirmed "Rotation" was "The Big Come Down" please? -

https://www.nin.wiki/The_Fragile_(halo)

[TheBang]

@piggy can you edit this page to state Charlie confirmed "Rotation" was "The Big Come Down" please? -

https://www.nin.wiki/The_Fragile_(halo)

https://www.nin.wiki/Rotation

[Erneuert]

https://www.nin.wiki/Rotation

Sorry, I meant this part on The Fragile page:

Note that whilst "Anomaly" has been confirmed to be the working title of "The Way Out Is Through", the final titles for "Rotation" and "Stained" have not been revealed; "Underneath It All" may be the final title for the latter, based on its prominent lyrical use of the word.

[piggy]

Ok, I copied over the bit from the "Rotation" page onto The Fragile page. I was going to do that the other day, but never got around to it.

[TheBang]

@Malechite
Two more MIA pages:
https://www.nin.wiki/Ninremixes.com
https://www.nin.wiki/The_Meathead_Perspective

@Malechite I scanned the whole site, and I think this is a complete list of URLs that the database says should exist, but do not.