I'll ask the question: if it's a reel, why not HD ?
I'll ask the question: if it's a reel, why not HD ?
I think the question is "Why wasn't it transferred in HD if it was on a reel?". I think it's because the reel isn't a typical film reel, but one designed for TV broadcasts, which would mean that the video was in standard definition.
Here's @FULLMETAL 's comments from the Auction thread:
dumb request but does anyone have the video download link of the 2005 KROQ almost acoustic xmas show?
There was a video, I think it was even discussed in this very thread a few years ago
Looking back at my own news site yes there were, it was the first webcast from The Hole, but same stream was available on kroq. So..... yes I got it since it was on the nin.com archive torrent (and whatever easily recordable back at the time)
[Edit] New link : http://jheberg.net/captcha/nin-double-kroq-2/
Here's a pack fuill of Kroq : both 2005 and 2006 video and audio and pictures
Last edited by ninjaw; 09-01-2017 at 06:42 AM. Reason: New link
It seems like archive is corrupted. I've tried to download file from two sources and result is the same. Also, I've tried various archive utilities but with no luck.
Wow you're right Winrar just destroyed my file right on my HDD... and I asked him to not compress ! amazing, what's hard about copying files from HDD to HDD ... ... Ok so I remade it using RAR this time, still no compression, new link : http://jheberg.net/captcha/nin-double-kroq-2/
PS: A word about audio files, nothing new not already on ninlive.com, flac is probably even a false worst one according to what I wrote about it 12 years ago
Last edited by ninjaw; 09-01-2017 at 06:51 AM.
KROQ is downloading fine. thx for sharing dude
Nevermind, I found links.Does anyone have either a download link or updated torrent trackers for "The Interview Essentials Vols. 1-3"? The torrents I have are stuck at 0%.
Last edited by Pyract; 09-04-2017 at 09:41 AM.
For whatever reason, VLC isn't getting audio playback with the x264 or x265 versions on my machine - maybe I need to update my software. However! That's not the point of my reply! Rather than do something clever like update my software, and because I wanted to compare the quality between Vimeo and this, I opened up Vimeo, cued up VLC, hit play on one and then on the other. I was actually really quite close - off by a few milliseconds.
And within a minute or so of side-by-side play, it became apparent to me that the the video you shared is an alternate cut! I can't really discern why - there's slightly fewer closeups of the crowd, but it's not as though there's a reduction in gruesome footage from the projector. But in the event you hadn't noticed, I wanted to point it out here
When I check it with MediaInfo, it's showing embedded FLAC audio on both mkv files.
Let me take a look at my source files and download what's in mega and see if something weird happened. I'll edit this post with results
Edit: I downloaded the files from mega and sure enough.. something's wrong with the audio portion. the FLAC files are muxed in there and everything, but .. not sure.. even extracting them leads to some weirdness. SO... I just made two new files with MKV Tools from my source encoded files.. (I left off the color test bars at the beginning this time... hopefully no one cares) I've already uploaded them to mega and I redownloaded them to check to make sure audio plays and skipped through just to make sure it doesn't cut out.
What I don't get is... what the hell took so long for anyone to notice or say anything? Did it really take someone like Leviathant to say something for anyone else to speak up? I'm SUPER surprised that I didn't take a ribbing from NINJaw. :-)
Same link as before, but here it is again for a reminder. https://mega.nz/#F!qV8zAIiC!-HhL-EdwQ40b73lFS7fyAw
Both the x264 and x265 were affected and should be fixed now. The raw file is untouched from the company that dumped it for me, so it should be fine unless 7-zip jacked it up doing the compression. If there's still something messed up... PLEASE let me know and I'll do new encodes from the RAW file again.
Last edited by kargath; 09-04-2017 at 12:40 PM.
As previously mentioned, the "No Shit" version is the same cut as "Hurt (Live)" as posted on the NineInchNailsVEVO YouTube page & the alternate version is titled "Hurt (live) (1995)" as posted on the NINofficial YouTube page.
Last edited by FULLMETAL; 09-05-2017 at 01:45 AM. Reason: redundant posting
I honestly can't believe that no one has ever noticed or pointed out that there are 2 cuts for this video.
Cut 1 - At the beginning, right after the nuke, there is a tight, rotating shot of the decomposing fox. There are no audience member shots in this cut.
kargath, TDS DualDisc,
Cut 2 - At the beginning, right after the nuke, the decomposing fox is a wide shot showing the whole projection screen. This cut has more shots of Trent and shots of people in the audience. There are a lot of alternate takes too (i.e. Trent singing the same line, but due to his body position, they're obviously from different nights). At the end, it fades out a few seconds sooner than Cut 1.
Vimeo, , Closure DVD
I reached way into my archives and found a folder called "Old music videos from nin.com". Hurt in there is Cut 1, the same as the TDS DualDisc with the label copyright notice at the end. I want to say that Cut 1 is the first one that came out; the one that originally aired on MTV back in the day. I don't really remember any audience member shots. Presumably kargath's tape is representative of what would have gone out to MTV.
I broke out the VCR to confirm that the Closure VHS has Cut 2 also. As I was fast-forwarding () through the tape, I noticed that the Eraser music video also has the same kind of tracking audience shots as Hurt. So, I think Hurt must have been re-cut for that live segment (Eraser, Hurt, Wish) on Closure. 20 years, and no one noticed there were 2 cuts?
If anybody have audio (preferably tracked) from vevo presents: NIN tension 2013 video uploaded on youtube, can it be shared here?