Originally Posted by
Wretchedest
I just watched Begins, with my friends a couple of days ago, and when he's talking about all of the civilizations they've toppled he absolutely mentions that it's because they grew too big. We ended up having a discussion about the discrepency between what he says he's trying to do, cleanse things of corruption, and what he's actually doing, corrupting these places and attacking the lower class. It's probably more in the fact that you can only write a comic book villain so deep, and that he's basically crazy, than a deliberate tinkering of motivations.
All beside my original point though, which is that they've essentially villainized populist movements and their goals, the most obvious and relevant one being occupy Wall St. and there goals. Whether that philosophy comes from Rand or Dickens or Barney the Dinosaur is secondary because a lot of media has explored these ideas. And whether or not Bane actually believed in the movement or was taking advantage of them or torturing them is also peripheral to that point, since either way it undercuts the credibility of those movements by rooting their goals in villainery and depicting their desired outcome as some kind of post-apocalyptic nightmare. It further reinforces its point by having the 1% and figures of authority be the hero in this situation. There's no subtlety here: the imagery and the dialogue evoke this throughout the entire movie.
I have my disagreements and agreements with those philosophy's, but I think it's pretty rad that a superhero movie can touch those ideas and at least get people to talk about them. It's cool that they even tried.
But yeah, him sleeping with Tate was the dumbest part of the movie. It's time that they could have kept things going with Selina Kyle somehow...