I was nobody. Nothing.
i've read every SK book. All of them. And i think i've seen all the movies.
The only good one is Secret Window, Secret Garden.
BTW, the kid who played Eddie Spaghetti in the original miniseries went to middle school with me.
He was a real, uptight snobby little bitch. He wore his cast jacket from It EVERY fucking day, rain or shine. And he had people who followed him around.
I wanted to beat his ass.
edit: i meant the only good MOVIE. I love almost all of the books, stories and novellas.
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Awwwwwwwww, come on, The Shining (sorry Mr King, you're wrong), Shawshank Redemption, Misery, Stand By Me, Carrie, The Dead Zone, Salem's Lot, and 1408 were all pretty damn good movies. Even the adaptation of Needful Things was a better-than-decent horror movie (based on a really underrated novel).
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Shawshank Redemption ftw!
I was nobody. Nothing.
Sorry, of course, Stand By Me is incredible as is Shawshank Redemption. and they are both also from novellas, and incredibly similar to the book.
The Shining doesn't have much of shit to do with the book.
@Jinsai , being an SK fanatic, faithfulness to the source material can make or break it for me. You know what i mean-that shit where you are watching the movie and saying "but it wasn't like that in the book!" every 10 seconds can totally ruin a movie.
That being said The Green Mile was fucking great.
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Well, apart from streamlining it quite efficiently...
Guy with an alcohol problem goes full-on dark once isolated with his family. All the rest is flourish supporting the actions and reactions.
In my point of view anyway.
Which is why I have a problem with King going all Lucas with his mythos, actually. Talisman didn't need a follow-up, neither did The Shining. Honestly, as far as I'm concerned, It represents the tipping point in Kings' work. From this novel on, everything was magic and voodoo and the power of creativity and innocence against the forces of evil. Blerg.
Before that, the shit the characters faced only served to highlight their own flaws and defects. Mediocrity, greed, selfishness, dishonesty, bigotry, blown out of proportions under extraordinary circumstances.
As far as I'm concerned, King is now writing fairy tales. Which I wouldn't object to, if he was any good at it.
I was nobody. Nothing.
Oh wow. I just couldn't disagree more.
I LOVED Black House.
And have you read The Dark Tower series?
Maybe it's just a question of taste.
But for me, King's Magnum Opus (TDT) is nothing short of "Lord of theRIngs" for a new generation.
And as far as him "not being any good," to me, he's the new Mark Twain.
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Yeah, I started it, and as you could have guessed from my previous comment, I'm not a fan
It showed some promise, great creative work, then more creative work, then it gets really messy. I would have loved to finish it out of curiosity, but having King insert himself into his own serie and somehow shove his accident in that whole narrative ? Made me Nope, made me Nope real hard. But then, that's pretty much what I expect from him nowadays. I like the guy, used to LOVE his work, but now I just find it mostly tacky.
He seems to be having fun, but (and here's Lucas again) he's at a point in his career where every idea is good enough. He could write pretty much anything, and as far as I'm concerned, that's exactly what he's doing. Except I don't mean that as a compliment.
Also, the guy doesn't know how to end a story. Never did. Which worked as long as everything was doom and gloom, because "and then everyone dies" or "this is our life now" are perfectly good finish moves, no need for closure in these cases. But when the hero is supposed to come up with a solution, and that solution is "magic card tricks !" "surprise atom bomb" or "suddenly, aliens !", I feel seriously cheated.
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I think it's great... probably the best thing he's written (aside from IT). I don't get how anyone could read Drawing of the Three and dislike it.Yeah, I started it, and as you could have guessed from my previous comment, I'm not a fan
I also never got why people seem to be so stuck on the differences between the film and book when it comes to The Shining. I've heard people claim it's a completely different story. It's a more faithful adaptation than most.
Both the book and movie tell the story of a recovering alcoholic writer and his wife who have a psychic son who move into an abandoned hotel to take care of it during the winter when it's closed and cut off from the world. The hotel is notoriously the site where a lot of bizarre murders happened in the off-season. Cabin fever sets in, and the son's psychic abilities resonate with the ghosts that haunt the hotel, empowering them to materialize and reach out to the father and manipulate him through his alcoholic weakness. His father goes crazy, and tries to chop em all into haggis. In the end of the book, King defaults to his "let's blow everything up!" ending habits, while in the movie the dad freezes to death chasing his son through the hedge maze. The topiary animals don't move around in the film, the wife isn't as hysterical and seemingly helpless in the book, there's more backstory to the ghosts that haunt the building in the book... and that's about it when it comes to the major differences. Oh yeah, and Halloran doesn't die in the book, and I guess it's important that Jack has his moment of redemption in the book, even though I don't think it would work as well in the film.
I kept hearing about how furious King was with the adaptation, and hearing from fans saying that the movie got everything wrong. So when I read the book, I was expecting a completely different story... and ended up reading a book that was more true to the story than most adaptations I've read. It's also a great film, regardless of how it represents the source material.
I think a lot of the King fans who despise the movie are operating on suggestion through the author, who I think had other reasons to hate the film.
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Okay please forgive me this small bit of drift, but what do YOU like to read these days?Yeah, I started it, (TDT) and as you could have guessed from my previous comment, I'm not a fan
It showed some promise, great creative work, then more creative work, then it gets really messy. I would have loved to finish it out of curiosity, but having King insert himself into his own serie and somehow shove his accident in that whole narrative ? Made me Nope, made me Nope real hard. But then, that's pretty much what I expect from him nowadays. I like the guy, used to LOVE his work, but now I just find it mostly tacky.
He seems to be having fun, but (and here's Lucas again) he's at a point in his career where every idea is good enough. He could write pretty much anything, and as far as I'm concerned, that's exactly what he's doing. Except I don't mean that as a compliment.
Also, the guy doesn't know how to end a story. Never did. Which worked as long as everything was doom and gloom, because "and then everyone dies" or "this is our life now" are perfectly good finish moves, no need for closure in these cases. But when the hero is supposed to come up with a solution, and that solution is "magic card tricks !" "surprise atom bomb" or "suddenly, aliens !", I feel seriously cheated.
This isn't some sort of assholery where i'm going to tell you why what YOU like to read isn't up to snuff. Rather, it's quite the opposite-i read King, Anne Rice (who has been hit and miss for some time but i read it all anyway,) Kathleen and Michael Gear (who aren't good anymore so i stopped) and John Steinbeck (he isn't creating new work for obvious reasons.) I've read most of the requisite Orwell and Burgess and Burroughs and such, and i read all the Infinite Jests and Poisonwood Bibles and Houses of Leaves in between. Quite naturally, i'm running out of things to read! Please PM me some suggestions if you get a chance.
(end drift.)
Maybe there is still hope for It. Andy Muschietti is at the helm, and he directed and produced Mama, which i found to be pretty fucking incredible.
Also. Lately, just this year in fact, i've learned to keep a more open mind about books adapted into film. 99% of the time, all i do is bitch about the differences.
I've finally learned that it's NOT going to be exactly the same. They AREN'T going to capture what was in your mind.
So with 11.22.63, i tried to, you know, celebrate the differences, if you will. I watched it and said "wow, that's different. that's kind of cool."
And i enjoyed it.
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