Too bad this one isn't up anymore:
http://web.archive.org/web/201604121...tourdates.html
I dont know, but the set up was nice. I digged
They won't be at Bonnaroo. As for Lolla, I doubt it, since they've been on the lineup pretty recently, but I know TR has a good relationship with the festival, and since it's four days now, they may need a band like NIN to fill out the lineup, despite the recency of them headlining. They won't be opposing ATCQ either. There's only three stages at Panorama, if anything, they'll be opposing Justice, which is fine, because Justice fucking sucks.
They didn't have a big crowd in 2008, and even less in 2013, I'd be surprised if they were back. They're not in the tier of RHCP, who came back within a four year difference but can still draw massive crowds, or even Muse for that matter who are playing again and would probably outdraw NIN at Lolla. I love NIN, but they're not exaclty the band that fits the festival's current demographic.
The lineup for the Panorama festival makes sense for the band that made Hesitation Marks but makes no sense for the band that made Not The Actual Events. I wonder if that means NTAE isn't as indicative of the next LP as we're all hoping...
I'm a Nine Inch Nails fan; what do I have other than looking too much into things? I'm sure you're right, though. It's just such an electronic lineup. Looking at last year, though, they had Arcade Fire and The National, so having NIN this year likely doesn't mean anything about anything.
when the main act played last year i believe they were the only ones on stage at the time.
Last year had only one act as the headliner though, this year has two each day so who knows what they intend on doing with that.
I was at both, and 2013 was PACKED- it was on a Friday. I remember not being able to get single day Friday resell tickets for face either, but they were very readily available for the Sunday acts (The Cure maybe???). Saturday was the night of the highest priced tickets. Don't remember right now who it was but I'm sure a quick google search will help for those that want to know.
NIN can still be a headliner for Lolla since they sell all their tickets prior to even announcing the acts, and they've had headliners that don't draw as well as NIN. Should rename it "Millenial Hipster Fest".
I get what you're saying, it's not exactly 1994 anymore. But a 3-4 day festival can do worse than NIN as one of two headliners per night.
Not saying they aren't a good headliner, but 3 times in nine years is kind of lazy booking, no matter who the headliner is.
Where were you for that 2013 set? I remember running after Hot Chip finished their set right as NIN took the stage, and was able to get really close and leaving several times to pee and get beer and had no problem zipping through the crowd.
The three of us got there minutes before QOTSA went on, and decided to park our feet on the walkway that was behind the mix and slightly west as that gave us a bit of a stepping stone (2 out of the 3 of us are short so the added height helped). As the night went in the crowd just got bigger and bigger, pushing as back as we wanted the best POV and not necessarily being the closest. And I had to piss and get beer as well, checked out trying to get closer and to the sides and definitely wasn't worth it.
Contrast that to 2008 where I was doing the same thing and ended up about 20 rows back and in between the right side of the stage and right screen. To be honest I don't know how Lolla was promoted then- did they attempt to sell out before announcing the acts? We ended up getting tickets from someone that won them on 102.1fm Milwaukee that didn't want to go, the afternoon of that Sunday they were playing. Got them for $20 total I believe and only reason for doing the short trip was the Minneapolis show got cancelled night before due to Trent getting sick. Had no intention of going to a shitty festival but couldn't pass that up regarding the circumstances.
I had only one person in front of me on the Josh side, and it was crowded as all fuck.
I wonder if they might end up headlining the 'other stage' at Glastonbury
You seem to know what you're talking about, so I'm inclined to believe you that NIN won't be at Amnesia.
This is an open question to anyone, but since you used to be in the business you might have a better answer to this... but how are bands chosen for a festival?
How does the festival know what bands will or will not be touring when they are planning their events? Do they just have a list of bands they want, and contact their touring management and ask if the band is willing to play that event that year? Or is there some secret list of bands that will be active that year that is given to festivals to pick and choose who they want at their festival? Or, do the bands say "We want to do festivals this year" to their touring management and say "go schedule some for us" and then the touring management tries to put together a touring route based on what festivals are offering the most. Is it like a bidding war?
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I didn't want top burst anyone's bubble. Maybe the NIN gods will contradict me just fuck me.
If Rammstein hadn't already been booked as one headliner, I think NIN may have been a possibility but the way this festival is working they won't have Rammstein and NIN as their two headliners.
If I hear anything to the contrary I'll be sure too share the info here.
A good question, that caused me to go out and find these articles:
http://adequateman.deadspin.com/how-...val-1697067459
http://diymusician.cdbaby.com/musici...usic-festival/
http://blog.jammob.com/want-to-start...sic-festivals/
http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4...st-kept-secret
http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4...l-2--green-man
http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4...-beacons-metro
http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4...--pop-montreal
http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4...estival-5--s-n
There are so many factors that go into booking bands to a festival. Established festivals are usually contacted by management who want to secure a slot on the festival.
Organizer are also looking at soundscan in the area to see if the band will draw its share of fans to the festival.
Bands that have new albums out will be looked at.
If a band is touring, it'll cost definitely less to book than a band that do a one-off date.
From my perspective,since I was managing local bands, I had to contact organizer a year in advance in order to secure opening spots. Ob
Those are just a few things that I can think on the top of my head.
So, two days after the announcement and still no detail on lineup/tour/production/is-this-a-one-off-gig/what-the-fuck-is-going-on.
So yeah... what's going on?
well, they're not booked for Roo...
https://www.bonnaroo.com/?utm_source...-lineup-onsale
Maybe nothing is known/a sure thing yet?
Maybe they will just let the festival(s) sell some tickets before any additional plans are to be released.
Surely, if this was just a Trent with a piano tour that would be announced before any tickets are sold? Or "we're only playing new material" or "we're only playing the fragile" would have to be announced beforehand as well.
So, considering this is the 2017 Live Tour Discussion:
SourceWill you follow up with a full-length Nine Inch Nails record this year?
REZNOR: We’re working on new stuff now, so we’re planning to release more stuff as soon as it’s ready, and I don’t think that’s this year.
Nine Inch Nails is scheduled to play the Panorama Festival on July 30 in New York. Will you be touring in 2017?
REZNOR: No, nothing is planned right now.
Are you still making music for How to Destroy Angels?
REZNOR: You will see more How to Destroy Angels. It’s in the works.
Just seen that Queens Of The Stone Age are set to release a new record in 2017. So... how about a joint tour with NIN later in the year? Or into 2018? Guessing they're still buddies.
Well, that's the end of the tour speculation. I guess he literally is doing a one-off show. Seems so out of character for him.
And what's with the comment about no new NIN this year? In the other interview he did in December, he said there were 2 new NIN projects being released in 2017...
So if one isn't an album, what the hell are they??
Urgh, if this really is the only show this year, I really should be making the effort to attend. I have a feeling something big is going to happen at this show if it's the only show he's doing.
Yeah, totally confusing. You know, he has every right to do whatever he wants, but that are some radically different statements between this interview and the Beats 1 interview a couple of weeks back. Two major NIN projects in 2017 vs. no new stuff this year and a one-off show.
I don't know. There has to be something behind the curtains, right? It just doesn't make any sense. And we know for sure that he has no problem with being dishonest when it comes to surprises (he introduced HM back in 2013 by saying "I was less than honest about what I've been really up to"). Maybe he's holding back further information because of ... reasons.
That's what I'm hoping anyway.