The more I listen to it, the more I pick up on small details. Such a fun track. May sound repetitive but there are small changes in the distortion as the track increases. A spiritual successor to 'Driver Down' in some ways.
The only downside to big speakers and new NIN is neighbors. Only a matter of time before there's a complaint
You should prolly get yourself a sikk pair of A2's bro. Maybe @streetman can hook you up. Did you know he listened to the new song through a pair of A2 speakers?
I remember perceiving Hesitation Marks as a more expansive, mature PHM on first listen – there was a strong updated synth-pop with dance and/or rock vibe on most of the tracks, whereas With Teeth and The Slip were very heavily loaded with what came across as almost conventional rock tunes, occasionally with a dance foundation. But there was a contemplative nature to the tracks that I enjoyed. I still feel like HM is part of the era where it is slightly under-produced when compared to my favorite era, but it's an improvement. I did not ever expect to love NIN again as much as I have been doing since the end of 2016.
I don't know if I totally felt like NIN was safe or completely conventional during 2005-2008, but I think I understand what you mean. It was definitely safer that NIN should have been. There was some dirtiness, some texture, some kind depth missing. Even on something like Ghosts, there wasn't the same level of sound design as there was on TDS or parts of The Fragile, and so, as ambitious as it was in some ways, it fell flat for me. I always felt like I "understood" the songs during this era very quickly, while with plenty of things from 1992-2002, I'd have to take awhile to wrap my head around it.
Hopefully we get a full quality release of this by the end of the week, which bands tend to do if a track has leaked.
Cheers, Toadflax.
Fuuuuuuck! To listen or not to listen?!?! I’m seeing them nights 2 & 3 in Vegas! Don’t think I can hold out for the next month!
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I think Trenty boy believes in God, so I don't believe it's meant as mockery. Which I'm fine with. If he can make music at the level that he does, maybe there's something to it, even though I'm a skeptic.
“Do you believe in God?
I do. I take comfort in thinking there’s some purpose and higher power of some sort. I’m not affiliated with any particular religion but that gives me some sense of comfort. I’ve had some dark days through the years and been through some shit that makes me think there is some reason here and it’s beyond just physics and biology.”
from here: http://www.theskinny.co.uk/music/int...s-trent-reznor
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Don't believe it's mockery? Have you not listened to the multiple NIN songs bashing god and religion? No offense but mocking and subverting the status quo is kind of what NN is all about.
"...thinking there's some purpose and higher power of some sort." isn't a belief in "GOD". Hope you can get the difference.
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All I hear is Laurel.
The question in the article is specifically:
ASK TRENT
Brody Dalle: T-Dog, do you believe in God?
To which he replies, "I do."
Also, there are songs on HM (specifically Find My Way), where the narrator refers to prayer.
I am aware of songs attacking the idea of organized religion, but they're all older songs, and in any case, you can still believe in some kind of deity even if you hate or question the dogmatic aspects of a church.
I don't really know if NIN has really been explicitly about subverting the status quo since The Downward Spiral, either. There's a kind of young person's usual rebellious attitude all over their earlier material but I don't hear it too much afterwards — starting with The Fragile it seems more like raging and despairing at betrayals of the self by the self, disappointments in relationships and regular ol' depression. Year Zero came out when at least half the country was dismayed by what was going on politically.
Anyway, take it up with that interview! I don't wanna drag down the thread with God talk. But he's definitely just crooning like Bowie.
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I....
Crap. I don't like it. That's unbelievably rare for me when it comes to this band. Then I listened to the snippet of Ahead of Ourselves, and...fuck, didn't quite get into that either.
Uh-oh.
Yep. I don't know why they think an atheist would bother to write a song like "Terrible Lie" or "Heresy," which are both more about having your faith tested or betrayed by religious dogma and the actions of a religious community (specifically with Heresy) than rejecting the spiritual in its entirety.
And then we have this song, which seems to be a prayer in its entirety in its lyrical content.
I really wish I could understand religious faith or spiritual beliefs. It seems like it's a comfort for many. I'm glad he has it.
What in the actual fuck was that?
Feels like something straight out of Lost Highway
I dunno, there’s that awfully generic electronic drum beat to begin the song (and pretty much goes to the end) that sounds like a it came from a free a free Apple app (only $0.99 for the ad free version), and it sounds like a Cure radio hit. RE: his voice. crackles during the beginning too; and the end... if there are unicorns out there, and they fart, he got a recording of it and stuck it there just to fuck with us.
When a musician tries something unexpected, whether it be stylistically or lyrically, I've always found it extremely disrespectful to categorize it under satire or sarcasm just to fit your own personal view of things. It happens with all big musicians, but I find it happens virtually every time that NIN releases anything. Imagine how it would feel to sing differently than you normally do (still in key, still hitting all the notes) and have someone say it's so ridiculous it must be mocking or satirical. Not even that someone isn't a fan, but that they think it is intentionally bad. Imagine that you poured your soul out into a lyric, revising over and over till you're sure it's good enough to let people hear, and then one of them thinks that you are joking about it; that the lyric is intentionally funny. I think that the only thing worse than how disrespectful that is, is how embarrassing it is for everyone else to read. Someone could come on here and say that Find My Way is mocking the conservative Christian view of the world, or that A Minute to Breathe is mocking liberal tears and the belief of global warming, but in neither case have they critiqued the song or changed its meaning; they've just let everyone know that their world view will affect their interpretation of everything they encounter. I'm not trying to be mean or single anyone out, this is just something that's happened on this board for over a decade, and I feel very strongly about it. It's okay to not agree with artistic decisions, or think it would be better another way, but when you start putting words in their mouths to align them to your beliefs, it's just awkward for everyone involved.
It's an abomination my dear friend...
Listen #2:
Fuck you Trent. This always happens with NIN.... (post 2000)... I absolutely hate it at first...and then.... FUCK.. Now I am starting to like the singing... and what I don't like is the ending which sounds so NIN cliché..