Puscifer

[sonic_discord]

Puscifer just announced a new track streaming on Sirius. Anyone have a chance to listen and pass on?

I'm also interested in hearing this. Pablo's Hippos was a pretty good track (probably the best on the Sessanta EP), so I'm hoping this one will be good too!

[Space Suicide]

Puscifer just announced a new track streaming on Sirius. Anyone have a chance to listen and pass on?


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Carina sounds mad on this track. Love it.

More like No Angel and this please! Can't wait for a potential next album.

[virushopper]

[Space Suicide]

Awesome. Hope this has a stand alone release in some form.

[gerbil]

It’s available as a single on Apple Music.


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[Toadflax]

Cool song, but between The Algorithm, Disillusioned, and yelling at the audience at every show to put their phones away, Maynard has basically become a 60 year-old man screaming at kids to get off his lawn.

[gerbil]

Cool song, but between The Algorithm, Disillusioned, and yelling at the audience at every show to put their phones away, Maynard has basically become a 60 year-old man screaming at kids to get off his lawn.

As someone in my late 30s I’m becoming increasingly jaded with social media and the instant-gratification culture we’ve grown into.

Like, sure, things have always changed. But in my ~youth~ if someone wanted to bully me they had to see me or call me and risk getting my parents. With my kids, they can get bullied whenever and wherever they are. Now there are new and exciting ways to spread hate and link up with likeminded people without the discouraging discomfort of possibly being spotted at a Klan rally.

I’m rambling now but my point is that as cringey as I originally feel like some of this stuff is, I get it and I’m getting it more and more.


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[Toadflax]

As someone in my late 30s I’m becoming increasingly jaded with social media and the instant-gratification culture we’ve grown into.

Like, sure, things have always changed. But in my ~youth~ if someone wanted to bully me they had to see me or call me and risk getting my parents. With my kids, they can get bullied whenever and wherever they are. Now there are new and exciting ways to spread hate and link up with likeminded people without the discouraging discomfort of possibly being spotted at a Klan rally.

I’m rambling now but my point is that as cringey as I originally feel like some of this stuff is, I get it and I’m getting it more and more.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I agree with the sentiment completely. I think it's more that Maynard is getting very literal with his lyrics lately, so instead of writing tasty metaphors for the thing he wants to talk about, he just says the thing itself, which doesn't make for very compelling or timeless lyrics. That's obviously not true of all of his recent lyrics; but that also makes the ones that are like that stand out even more.

Also, this is for the American Psycho comic which features a character obsessed with social media, so there's at least a reason for the very literal lyrics here.

[gerbil]

Oh, don't get me wrong, I agree with the sentiment completely. I think it's more that Maynard is getting very literal with his lyrics lately, so instead of writing tasty metaphors for the thing he wants to talk about, he just says the thing itself, which doesn't make for very compelling or timeless lyrics. That's obviously not true of all of his recent lyrics; but that also makes the ones that are like that stand out even more.

Also, this is for the American Psycho comic which features a character obsessed with social media, so there's at least a reason for the very literal lyrics here.

Yeah, I do wish we had some more metaphors and less direct lyrics but I’m not the one writing them so hey


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[Space Suicide]

Nothing tops So Long, And Thanks For All The Fish for deep meaning, well written jaded lyrics. He tends to do better with APC and Tool with metaphors and allegories. Not to knock Puscifer but the lyrics often feel very direct and less meticulously laid out. However Existential Reckoning lyrics are on point and deep.

[Reznor2112]

Nothing tops So Long, And Thanks For All The Fish for deep meaning, well written jaded lyrics. He tends to do better with APC and Tool with metaphors and allegories. Not to knock Puscifer but the lyrics often feel very direct and less meticulously laid out. However Existential Reckoning lyrics are on point and deep.

That said, those lyrics on APC's 'Kindred' -- those are so "on-the-nose" cringe that I can't even listen to that song. No offense to MJK's daughter and her beloved feline friend but... yikes. Not my cup of tea.

[Space Suicide]

That said, those lyrics on APC's 'Kindred' -- those are so "on-the-nose" cringe that I can't even listen to that song. No offense to MJK's daughter and her beloved feline friend but... yikes. Not my cup of tea.

Yeah a very literal song haha. I appreciate it for what it is but I stand by saying it was the worst track on E.P.P.P.

[gerbil]

That said, those lyrics on APC's 'Kindred' -- those are so "on-the-nose" cringe that I can't even listen to that song. No offense to MJK's daughter and her beloved feline friend but... yikes. Not my cup of tea.

As a parent it strikes me in the parent zone. Cuz it’s like, you tell your kids good night and there’s nothing to worry about when you know there’s plenty to worry about. Every time you leave you tell your kids you’ll be back soon but you don’t know a freak accident won’t take you away from them.

I also stand by my belief that the “friend” mentioned the second time isn’t the same feline friend mentioned before.

I do think it’s a fairly weak track. I enjoy it for what it is, though. Supposedly better live.


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[Tyson]

I, personally, choose to believe that the person being spoken of in the Puscifer track from E.P.P.P. is the same person that is responsible for the death of his daughter's cat from the APC track.

[Space Suicide]

I, personally, choose to believe that the person being spoken of in the Puscifer track from E.P.P.P. is the same person that is responsible for the death of his daughter's cat from the APC track.

They killed a cat. Pablo's Hippos are next.

[wampa]

I love TOOL. I love APC, Puscifer, MTVoid, etc... all the side projects, but I just haven't cared for most of the stuff Pusicfer has released the last few years. It's so on-the-nose and IMO, kind of cringey. Again, just my opinion.

[think i'm a fire engine]

They killed a cat. Pablo's Hippos are next.

I had vaguely heard of the hippos before the song came out, but reading further into their story after the song came out, it seems like it might not be a bad idea if they were wiped out. Efforts to sterilize them are not making much progress.

[Erneuert]

I love TOOL. I love APC, Puscifer, MTVoid, etc... all the side projects, but I just haven't cared for most of the stuff Pusicfer has released the last few years. It's so on-the-nose and IMO, kind of cringey. Again, just my opinion.

I don’t think I listened all the way through Existential Reckoning. It all started to sound too samey to me with the bleep bloops.

[stankeybearlover]

I loved Existential Reckoning for the music. It's the superficial social commentary and "neutral" politics that drag it down for me. I do interpret them as extensions of his "live life to the fullest, but remember tomorrow is made today" message. But it comes across as someone who has no clear grasp of what he's talking about.

Mind you, I am a sociologist. I imagine it must be worse for psychologists to listen to the endless barrage of toxic love songs.

[gerbil]

I loved Existential Reckoning for the music. It's the superficial social commentary and "neutral" politics that drag it down for me. I do interpret them as extensions of his "live life to the fullest, but remember tomorrow is made today" message. But it comes across as someone who has no clear grasp of what he's talking about.

Mind you, I am a sociologist. I imagine it must be worse for psychologists to listen to the endless barrage of toxic love songs.

I do dislike Maynard’s “both sides” stuff. I also dislike his dodging things that could cause controversy.

I do think, though, that after a career of tongue in cheek humor and cryptic but deeply personal lyrics, he’s owed the chance to be more straightforward. Like, “The Algorithm” or “Disillusioned” are basically “Stinkfist” without the cover.

I’ve pointed to this before but there’re several large threads on other Tool-centric forums explaining that despite the obvious, “10,000 Days” and “Wings For Marie” are actually about the fall of Satan. So, like, I’m gonna give him this.

Edit: I know it’s still the wrong band but people took on “The Outsider” as an angry anthem before Maynard finally explained that it was actually from the POV of someone who didn’t understand mental illness and was brushing off someone else’s experiences.


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[MrLobster]

I've ordered that D is for Dubby release...

[Erneuert]

I've ordered that D is for Dubby release...

Fun fact: the original Lustmord online release from 2007 had different mastering to subsequent releases. Not sure how different it sounds.

It was also reissued online at some point with two additional remixes.