Mank (2020)

[gorast]

I cannot wait to get that. Absolutely gorgeous.

Really love the touch of the tagline "nothing sounds better" in particular, like how the Watchmen Vol. 3 vinyl had a nothing-style Null logo for the label.

[Prettybrokenspiral]

Already got mine, too. Believe me, it is amazing..!

[NIN64]

How are people randomly getting these in the mail?!?

[sonic_discord]

Yeah, do they just send them randomly to people who have spent a lot of money or placed a lot of orders through nin.com? Leviathant and people working for magazines or music websites getting an early release makes sense to me, but there seem to be other random people getting them too.

[Damage]

Yeah, do they just send them randomly to people who have spent a lot of money or placed a lot of orders through nin.com? Leviathant and people working for magazines or music websites getting an early release makes sense to me, but there seem to be other random people getting them too.

Man if that's the case i should have gotten one or two as well ! lol

[gorast]

If the commercial release ends up just being a regular vinyl sleeve, that’s not just disappointing, that fucking blows. Especially since people are getting this weird deluxe edition sight unseen without any indication that it’s not actually a preview of what regular people can buy.

[Leviathant]

If the commercial release ends up just being a regular vinyl sleeve, that’s not just disappointing, that fucking blows. Especially since people are getting this weird deluxe edition sight unseen without any indication that it’s not actually a preview of what regular people can buy.

I think the fact of the matter is, for all the star power behind it, Mank is a niche film with unlikely budget behind it. Maybe what I got is FYC Oscar fodder, and if so, the fact that a few fans are getting copies is actually pretty unusual. I can say that as the guy who runs the NIN Hotline, I don't own a single FYC score - much though I'd love to, I can never justify the cost on the secondhand market. That's movie industry stuff that's generally been out of the purview of a musician's traditional, uh, distribution.

You also have to remember that it took a long time for the deluxe vinyl box for TGWTDT to sell out. I have no insight into the sales of the Bird Box vinyl set, but I'd bet that factors into just how much team Netflix considers investing into a similar labor of love.

I don't own the vinyl edition of the Dragon Tattoo score. I just didn't have the scratch at the time. This Mank packaging? I imagine the retail cost would be pretty far up there, and while I'm in a better position financially than I was in ten years ago and might pull the trigger on something like this... limiting a vinyl release to one pricey box set gives far fewer people the opportunity of listening to the music in this way. I'm guessing the version you'll be able to buy in stores will still feature period artwork, and will still be an excellent artifact to have.

[gorast]

To be clear, my irritation isn’t at anyone who actually receives one of these, which I think didn’t come across right with the language I used. It’s more so that these were sent out, and no indication was given whether they were pre-release examples, Oscar bait, anything of the sort, so understandably they became representative to me of what we’d actually be able to buy, even though that doesn’t seem to have been the intention.

It’s just kind of disappointing, especially considering that the Dragon Tattoo and Bird Box deluxe boxes exist. It’s not about who got these, I don’t care about that - it’s that it wasn’t made clear to you or Wampler that these aren’t representative of a retail product.

[cdm]

To be clear, my irritation isn’t at anyone who actually receives one of these, which I think didn’t come across right with the language I used. It’s more so that these were sent out, and no indication was given whether they were pre-release examples, Oscar bait, anything of the sort, so understandably they became representative to me of what we’d actually be able to buy, even though that doesn’t seem to have been the intention.

It’s just kind of disappointing, especially considering that the Dragon Tattoo and Bird Box deluxe boxes exist. It’s not about who got these, I don’t care about that - it’s that it wasn’t made clear to you or Wampler that these aren’t representative of a retail product.

I get what you're saying here and if the retail presentation is wildly different then I'd have to agree. But let's wait to see what the retail version looks like...it behooves them to announce it sooner rather than later. So even if it's a pre-order I think we'll have details soon enough.

[Leviathant]

it’s that it wasn’t made clear to you or Wampler that these aren’t representative of a retail product.

Admittedly, I could have tweeted out a message like "I unexpectedly received a white cardboard envelope with this incredible triple album in it. When I emailed to say thanks, in the reply, I learned that it was a special thing being sent out to just a few people, different from the consumer offering, but it was okay to post pictures."

The thing is, part of the reason the NIN Hotline came about was because in the 90s, there was so much fucking mystique around Nine Inch Nails that it was hard to track down all the details. There was stuff people heard on tour, stuff Trent mentioned in interviews, there were things the band put out through publicists, there was record label stuff, there were rumors. Eventually, nin.com becomes a thing, and it's a total art project - which was great! And over the years, the NIN camp got better and better at focusing their messaging, especially as they moved away from Universal. I wouldn't go so far as to say it's clinical, but there's just not as much room for intrigue as there used to be.

And I miss that.

And so instead of presenting the equivalent of a nincatalog page (nincatalog fucking rules, not throwing shade), I joked about finding this record at a thrift shop, and let it hang in the air for a bit.

I'm sorry that approach ended up being irritating.

[ekrekel]

The boys reading this RN:

[spahn]

Admittedly, I could have tweeted out a message like "I unexpectedly received a white cardboard envelope with this incredible triple album in it. When I emailed to say thanks, in the reply, I learned that it was a special thing being sent out to just a few people, different from the consumer offering, but it was okay to post pictures."

The thing is, part of the reason the NIN Hotline came about was because in the 90s, there was so much fucking mystique around Nine Inch Nails that it was hard to track down all the details. There was stuff people heard on tour, stuff Trent mentioned in interviews, there were things the band put out through publicists, there was record label stuff, there were rumors. Eventually, nin.com becomes a thing, and it's a total art project - which was great! And over the years, the NIN camp got better and better at focusing their messaging, especially as they moved away from Universal. I wouldn't go so far as to say it's clinical, but there's just not as much room for intrigue as there used to be.

And I miss that.

And so instead of presenting the equivalent of a nincatalog page (nincatalog fucking rules, not throwing shade), I joked about finding this record at a thrift shop, and let it hang in the air for a bit.

I'm sorry that approach ended up being irritating.

I totally agree with your statement regarding theninhotline. I used to NEVER be able to get any info about NIN if it weren't for the hotline. for god's sake, it was my homepage for years!
That being said, I do miss the intrigue but I also appreciate the accessibility we have nowadays. The hotline still is a great resource and reference (like nincatalog ) for all the older pre-With Teeth era.
Long live theninhotline and all the fan pages out there that put in the effort to keep them up-to-date and flowing with great information.

[p_rez17]

While I'm sad that I won't be able to get the special packaging, I am glad that the creators of these communities are getting them. Well-deserved

Using Scott Wampler's photos and some font detecting, I've Photoshopped a mobile and desktop wallpaper mimicking the Mank album artwork, featuring Evgeni Koroliov's beautiful drawing. Feel free to download both here: https://imgur.com/a/DC5SLSO

[paul_guyet]

Admittedly, I could have tweeted out a message like "I unexpectedly received a white cardboard envelope with this incredible triple album in it. When I emailed to say thanks, in the reply, I learned that it was a special thing being sent out to just a few people, different from the consumer offering, but it was okay to post pictures."

The thing is, part of the reason the NIN Hotline came about was because in the 90s, there was so much fucking mystique around Nine Inch Nails that it was hard to track down all the details. There was stuff people heard on tour, stuff Trent mentioned in interviews, there were things the band put out through publicists, there was record label stuff, there were rumors. Eventually, nin.com becomes a thing, and it's a total art project - which was great! And over the years, the NIN camp got better and better at focusing their messaging, especially as they moved away from Universal. I wouldn't go so far as to say it's clinical, but there's just not as much room for intrigue as there used to be.

And I miss that.

And so instead of presenting the equivalent of a nincatalog page (nincatalog fucking rules, not throwing shade), I joked about finding this record at a thrift shop, and let it hang in the air for a bit.

I'm sorry that approach ended up being irritating.

Levi, you don't have a THING to apologize for. All the work you've put into this community over the years, you deserve something ridiculous and unique like this. Thanks for STILL putting up with our whiny asses this many years later and for continuing to do what you do.

[Ascender]

You never know with Trent, I'm still hopeful there will be something very unique about this release, but those advance copies do look amazing. I love that they take so much care with their physical stuff.

[cdm]

As a surprise to no one...Mank received an Oscar nomination for Best score. Mank is also nominated for Best Sound, someone we've heard a lot about, Ren Klyce, is part of that group.

https://variety.com/2021/film/news/2...es-1234928711/

Jump over to the Soul thread for an alternate version of this post.

[WorzelG]

As a surprise to no one...Mank received an Oscar nomination for Best score. Mank is also nominated for Best Sound, someone we've heard a lot about, Ren Klyce, is part of that group.

https://variety.com/2021/film/news/2...es-1234928711/

Jump over to the Soul thread for an alternate version of this post.

It’s funny that Mank hasn’t been that well liked as a film, but it’s got the most Oscar nominations at 10, like it’s being awarded for the craft gone into it rather than it being loved. I actually enjoyed Mank

[otnavuskire]

It’s funny that Mank hasn’t been that well liked as a film, but it’s got the most Oscar nominations at 10, like it’s being awarded for the craft gone into it rather than it being loved. I actually enjoyed Mank

I mean it's certified fresh at 83% on rotten tomatoes. That's seems pretty well liked to me.

[WorzelG]

I mean it's certified fresh at 83% on rotten tomatoes. That's seems pretty well liked to me.

I guess I was talking about the opinion of general film twitter and awards chatter but, yes those numbers do say it’s well liked

[sonic_discord]

It’s funny that Mank hasn’t been that well liked as a film, but it’s got the most Oscar nominations at 10, like it’s being awarded for the craft gone into it rather than it being loved. I actually enjoyed Mank

I think with Mank, it's a more niche subject matter. Fincher is my favorite director, but I still haven't watched Mank yet, and that's because I feel like I should watch Citizen Kane first. Mank feels like it has a prerequisite in Citizen Kane that many people might not be interested in or have the patience for.

[Arkadin]

I think with Mank, it's a more niche subject matter. Fincher is my favorite director, but I still haven't watched Mank yet, and that's because I feel like I should watch Citizen Kane first. Mank feels like it has a prerequisite in Citizen Kane that many people might not be interested in or have the patience for.

Actually Mank is a work of fiction, without much accurate history in it. So no, I don't think you really need to watch Citizen Kane first. A big chunk of the movie isn't even about Kane anyway. In fact, the more you know about the history the more you might be distracted by how removed from the history that Mank is. That being said, coming from someone who has seen Kane close to ten times, yes, you should watch Kane regardless of Mank. Mank is a markedly inferior movie to Kane (most movies are), and if you only have two hours to spare and both movies in your queue, it's an easy decision.

[Zimbo]

I think it is so cool that Trent and Atticus continue to care about their NIN community. I am sure I reek of envy but bugger all, that is so pleasing just to see. Excited to read that Mank will have a release, albeit different. Plus, it is nominated for an Oscar. How cool! I am so happy for them.

[bobbie solo]

I highly recommend seeing Citizen Kane before watching Mank, as well as qucikly reading up on all that went into making & releasing CK. Everything in Mank will make much more sense, and everyone who is into movies should see CK at some point anyway.

[Fadeout54321]

I scored a copy of the Coffee Table Book for the movie. There's a section about the score with an interview with TR and AR. I'm super busy with work/family stuff but I'll upload pictures of the pages at some point soon.

[Fadeout54321]

I got a free second. Here they are. It's just three pages. I have only thumbed through the book so if there is anything else related to the score I will add it. Sorry if the pictures aren't the best but I didn't want to break the spine to flatten the pages. Here's a link to the photo album I created for them, the pictures may be better there than copy and pasted here.

[botley]

Thanks so much @Fadeout54321 — gotta ask though, can you make out on the page what that design is on TR's coffee mug?

[eversonpoe]

Thanks so much @Fadeout54321 — gotta ask though, can you make out on the page what that design is on TR's coffee mug?

i hope it's a picture of atticus drinking coffee out of a mug with a picture of trent drinking coffee on it

[Fadeout54321]

Thanks so much @Fadeout54321 — gotta ask though, can you make out on the page what that design is on TR's coffee mug?

It is really hard to tell what is on the mug. Definitely looks like a person or a cartoon character or something. Here's the best i could do for a picture of the picture...

[henryeatscereal]

It is really hard to tell what is on the mug. Definitely looks like a person or a cartoon character or something. Here's the best i could do for a picture of the picture...

Looks like Nosferatu

[botley]

^ Thanks! I appreciate you taking the extra time to share.