So you were basically mad at ME. I'm sorry.
I get it. It's not as if our ROCK heroes would ever do anything ILLEGAL.
Honestly, yeah, perhaps my assessment was rude, but having listened to his self deprecating stories over the years, and adding to that the fact that he seems to be especially close to Mr. Chris Vrenna (of Rasputina fame) , whose solo project/ remix handle was...Tweaker?...alongside a pile of anecdotal tales from my friends in the Texas music scene...and, well, you know.
THAT BEING SAID, I fucking LOVE the dude, what i know of him, and i ADORE his work, from NIN to APC, to his rap rock productions, to LIGHTS, to.freaking Eminem and David Bowie and Mr Perry Farell.
He's utterly INCREDIBLE, AND, he's a regular, standard issue Texas freak, like myself, who managed to be involved with NIN and APC and a WHOLE bunch of other things
I'm GODDAMN sure not trying to hurt him or laugh at him.
ANYWAY, changing gears, from the immortal Renholder, to the inimitable Re: Josh Freese, think back to those videos he released on tour with NIN.
He didn't...lol...I think he was being hyperbolic, but he sure didn't seem very HAPPY.
Josh is fucking amazing, but he's DEFINITELY more of a hired gun.
For every NIN contribution, there's three stints with bands like Puddle of Mudd, or Static-X, or Sting, etc
Hell. Come to think of it, he did all of the drumming on my friend Rhett's solo debut, ffs.
He's badass, but I have a feeling he wasn't... like, he didn't consider HIMSELF a "member" of NIN, is my read on that.
He played on...The Slip, and two tracks on YZ?
I get the vibe that he doesn't feel like an NIN member anymore than he feels like a member of Weezer or Sublime or Bruce Springsteen's band.
He seems FAR more passionate about APC and Devo.
I HIGHLY doubt JF felt slighted in the LEAST. I mean, he's THE GUY you call if you need, and can afford, one of the best drummers in the world, and he's QUITE aware of that.
Last edited by elevenism; 10-09-2022 at 03:17 PM.
I've chatted with Josh briefly before, and from that plus what I've heard from him in interviews and podcasts, he seems like a very upbeat and positive guy. I don't think he was unhappy with NIN, or he wouldn't have been involved. He left at the end of 2008 because he didn't want to spend most of 2009 on the road and wanted to focus on family at home.
I think the bands he would consider himself a member of are The Vandals, Devo, and APC, though he left APC after 2011 and only plays with Devo sporadically now. He plays with Sting, but like NIN, that's a hired gun situation. Same with a lot of the other bands he's played with recently. Anyway, all that is to say that yeah, I doubt he cares about being included with NIN or not. He seems like a humble guy who doesn't need to prove anything or need validation from something like that.
Finally got a custom frame made for this bad boy. Very happy with how it turned out.
Very nice. This whole thing was pretty rad.
You know, i was still pretty upset about missing this whole shindig until I ended up using the Deltra credits I had saved to see Skinny Puppy back in November. Definitely took some of the sting away.