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Not sure where to ask this but does anyone know when the Apple Music update comes? Is it with the new IOS10? They're saying that IOS10 update comes out tomorrow so does that mean new Apple Music tomorrow? I'm naively assuming new Apple Music = new NIN.
Last edited by stevejohnson; 09-12-2016 at 02:14 PM.
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I haven't heard anything saying the redesigned Apple Music is not included in the iOS 10, so I think it is safe to assume it will be included with the update tomorrow.Originally Posted by stevejohnson
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Yes, Apple Music update is included and should be available at 1:00 pm ET. That's based on http://www.iphonehacks.com/2016/09/i...ease-time.html
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God, I sure hope we get something NIN related with this!
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I'm guessing the definitive remaster is the one done by an engineer named Kevin Carafa in 2013. See the first download source on this page: http://ninlive.com/shows/1994/19940813.html
There was also a new master uploaded in 2014 by a YouTube channel called Music Vault, who had licensing rights and obviously got hold of a more original source than Kevin did, but I think the resolution is probably inferior?
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Okay.. seeing as tomorrow is the day we're supposed to not get "Dive and Slam", I was bored and digging through the ASCAP repertory and found a registration for "George Michael Sports Machine". Can't find any sort of credits or information as to whooooo did the music but please... PLEASE let us add this musical gem to the collection of "unreleased NIN"...
Just noticed I didn't phrase that in the form of a question... so... anybody?
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Could Dive and Slam be a track off the Before the Flood score? Dive could certainly fit but not sure about Slam
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Or GMSM (Version)...
And even more digging shows that he did work for WWE Raw? It's interesting to see all the "Song 3" and "Song 11"s as well as "Vacation Berlin" and "Vacation Beijing" with Atticus.
Last edited by m33k; 09-15-2016 at 02:50 AM.
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I thought about starting a thread where everyone could post their favorite NIN remixes. Is there already one in existence? I'm especially thinking about remixes that aren't "officialy" released but distributed through YouTube/Soundcloud/remix.nin.com etc.
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I surely wasn't expecting anything nin related to be announced or released with the update, but the fact that there was nothing at all. No tweet about it, "connect" comments, interview, etc. really makes me wonder how involved Trent is with this. Not to mention that I think the redesign is not the best. I found it much more user friendly before and I am not really happy with it now. I didn't find it as bad as everyone made it out to be originally. Granted it has only been a couple days... maybe I'll get used to it. In all honesty though I really like Spotify and even with a subscription to Apple Music I only ever use it for exclusives or to hear new releases a little early as they seem to be available on Apple Music a few hours before Spotify. Spotify has a much better UI in my opinion and I like being able to more easily steam to devices in my house.
Did Trent comment on the redesign recently or is it known how much input he had? Just curious.
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Heres a question for the diehard completists....what are the NIN "remix" songs where TR actually recorded or used different/alternate vocal tracks...Obviously "closer to god' was a different vocal track...any others that arent just speculation? I always assumed HLAH "opal" mix was a dif vocal track as well...thoughts? opinions? facts?
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Yeah IIRC he said he was "too busy working on getting Dive & Slam finished" to have any time to work on this.
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does anyone have an HD picture of the bloodcells on the screen at the 1:07 mark?
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TDTWWA single has a different take than the album version.
Been a while, but I think the versions of Terrible Lie on HLAH are different vocals than what's on PHM.
Related: The surround version of Big Man With a Gun on TDS: DE has almost completely different instrumentation - guessing the masters are missing.
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which, to me, is a far superior take compared to the one used on the album.
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Right Where It Belongs V2 is also a different vocal take...also superior..in my humble opinion...always thought Art of Self Destruction Part 1 was a different vocal take as well
Last edited by billpulsipher; 09-20-2016 at 02:11 PM.
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I think a couple tracks on Year Zero Remixed have different vocal tracks. The Great Destroyer and Survivalism, maybe another one. I can't remember since it's been a while since I listened to it.
Also, not sure if you count it, but Starsuckers has a different vocal in the bridge.
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Shit. I'd never considered the results of that. Also helps understand why there's no instrumental of it on remix.nin.com.
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There are of course some different vocals on "All The Pigs, All Lined Up" and the deconstructed version of "The Fragile" has some different vocals on the quiet section at least. And I think any song on FDTS that says "recreated" by Nine Inch Nails is completely re-recorded.
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Same with "Ruiner". No instrumental was released for it, and, if you listen to the 5.1 version closely, there is an extra bassline added to the "trumpety synths" part in the choruses (the same one that is heard right after the guitar solo at the end). This can't be a coincidence!!!
I don't think so. It sounds like Alessandro just pitch-shifted the vocals so they fit into his own chord progression. I vaguely remember reading an interview of him saying he was nervous about fiddling with the vocals, worrying that Trent wouldn't like it. Of course, he did. And, when Ally pulled off the same altered vocal trick with his The Space In Between remix, the live incarnation of HTDA (which featured Ally, no less) performed the remix instead of the actual album version. If only NIN performed the TGD remix live... but I digress.
And Survivalism, I'm guessing you're referring to one of the two Saul Williams remixes, which featured extra rapping by Saul, but was on the UK 9" Vinyl Survivalism single, not YZR.
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It sounds like a person's voice, not a siren.
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Anybody know what happened to the remix artist Dirty Scarab? Some of his Year Zero stuff really impacted my love of this band; I'd love to know whatever it is he's doing these days.
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I always wondered about the exact meaning of "Me, I'm Not". Like, literally that part where he sings "Me, I'm Not". He's not ... what exactly? I can't make any sense out of this.
The whole song is kind of mysterious to me. I really like to listen to it, but I don't get the narrative. At all.
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Isn't that one about the drug that makes killing people indistinguishable from fucking? So suddenly the guy just loves killing people?
Idon't know, that's what I've always thought
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Well, I should've figured!
Seriously though, how do you know that, if you were not following the Year Zero storyline / ARG and stuff? Maybe I'm just bad at understanding lyrics, but I would've never guessed that.
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I have no idea. I did follow the Year Zero stuff so I guess I just put it together in my head. I imagine understanding Year Zero without having done that would be quite hard, there's no real narrative to it and the artwork/liner notes don't really give you anything to go on.
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Is Trent Reznor a member or reader on this forum ?
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Trent allegedly had an account on the forum before the reset some years ago (Levi can probably confirm/deny this proper) but as for right now there's no way to know if he does have an account here. However, I'm quite sure he's at least aware of what's discussed or checks in from time to time. Now whether or not he cares is another matter entirely.
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Maybe. Maybe not. Probably not. God I hope not.
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