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Well he said "some things" not "something", he could of course be doing it but then he could also be doing the mythical Fight Club musical at last, or something less musical like even lecturing or business/tech related.
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Well he said "some things" not "something", he could of course be doing it but then he could also be doing the mythical Fight Club musical at last, or something less musical like even lecturing or business/tech related.
agreed.
we live in the age of the single, and it's a shame.
i feel bad for kids growing up these days.
Even CDs were newfangled when i was growing up.
Albums are meant to be cohesive works of art, tied together by thematic and melodic threads...at least they used to be..., and for my dollar, NIN subtly ties songs together better than just about anyone.
The way things are headed, though, it's all about scoring a hit single. My ex girlfriend's teenage kid laughed at me when i used the word "album." He thought he was so fucking cool (granted, i thought i was pretty damn cool at his age.)
He advised me that no one says the word album...that's like saying "record," hardy har har, and he and his friends listen to SONGS on their ipods, not albums.
i really hope that artists don't stop trying to make cohesive records as the times change.
There's that difference between an album and an LP, LP is just a long form musical release, and an album should work as a solid. I know that's old and people don't use terms in that way anymore, but I feel some albums, like TDS, are not a set of songs, they're whole things. Imagine if Tubular Bells was split up into 8 tracks and people hit shuffle on it.
I used to be as bad as anyone for the shuffle button, but actually experiencing an album really changes an album, and if the only way you can listen to a song is in context, well, maybe that's a good thing.
hell yes, @sheepdean , the repetition of the phrase "nothing can stop me now," the reappearing descending melody...tds is a "whole thing" for sure.
other bands that are great at this, to me, are pink floyd, rush, the first perfect circle, boards of canada...
albums like that are so rewarding to me. you can really sit and "listen to a record" just like you would watch a movie if it's done the right way
I'm not, like, a pop music historian or whatever (or even *that* old), but haven't singles been popular previously, as well? I only know about the last couple decades first hand, but it seems like we've gone from an age of "no singles", at least commercially because singles were thought to be not profitable, to an age where singles are more profitable.
I guess what I'm getting at is that there were multiple ages of singles, and through all that, there were still artists that created cohesive albums, even sometimes the same artists that were known for having really big singles. Like, The Beatles of course had a lot of big singles but their later albums in different ways were a response to that. Or even, like, Christina Aguilera. Her first album was all about the singles to the extent that non-singles were remade to be released as singles ("Come On Over"). But then Back to Basics has an overall concept (or two overall concepts I guess).
There might be a shift. But I'm sure there are some (young) people that are interested in hearing full albums and some that don't. Just like there were some people that listened to Closer or MOTP and some that listened to TDS as a cohesive work.
In my CD-ripping days I aimed for a compromise: if the songs ran together I stitched them into a single file, with chapter markers for good measure. (Even did that with downloads from iTunes/Amazon, knowing the quality loss was imperceptible.) Much more shuffle friendly, and it retained some of the context.
Now that Spotify has replaced that part of my brain, my first listen is the full album — but it's shuffle ever after, artist's intentions be damned. Aside from certain exceptional albums, anyway.
Was that version not released anywhere? I made my own "extended version" from the multitracks, but I assumed that was just because I'm weird.
Last edited by Joy Prevention Hotline; 10-29-2014 at 07:05 PM.
The single version of Discipline was the free download we got just before the slip came out, if the site still works you can actually still get it http://dl.nin.com/discipline/kroq (it's a whole 10 seconds longer)
As the song and the album are free to download, I'm going to assume this is ok, but I'll tag @Leviathant just in case
Here's the single version, with the original ID3 tags
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4L...ew?usp=sharing
Has there ever been a NIN album release that didn't include a tour? Just wondering.
Ghosts and The Slip didn't have their own tour I think ?
tenRightcharacters !
Broken didn't have a supporting tour.
I always suspected the tour plans came first, and The Slip came second -- that it was recorded so that there was new music to promote the tour/play.
There was no Still tour
Anyone know where to find this fan made art "the beginner's guide to NIN albums"? and it says start here at TDS
What's the story behind ETS's front page pic? And what's the quote?
How many times was MOTP played in the middle of the set?
October 07, 1994, Universal City, CA, Universal Amphitheatre
Setlist
Pinion
Terrible Lie
Sin
Mr. Self Destruct
Something I Can Never Have
Closer
Reptile
Gave Up
March of the Pigs
Eraser
Hurt
The Downward Spiral
Wish
Burn
The Only Time
Down In It
Head Like a Hole
Dead Souls
Suck
Help Me I'm In Hell
Happiness In Slavery
this is so wrong at all levels :P
Have NIN ever done isolated live performances? Like a TV/award show or festival appearance while not on a tour cycle?